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Post by RockMan Trigger on Mar 13, 2006 10:35:29 GMT -5
I've noticed that Sera, Gatz, Geetz, and possibly Yuna( i dont remember) transform in the game into some sort of Reverbot. So i was wondering, can Trigger have the same transformation?
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Post by GSG on Mar 13, 2006 13:05:43 GMT -5
That's an interesting point. At first I just thought that Sera was just wearing battle armor and didn't transform at all, but then what about her second form? Her face completely changes as well, as far as I can recall.
Gattz and Geetz are able to transform at will, and we know that they actually morph their own bodies as opposed to just switching shells because while Geetz is on the Sulpher Bottom, there's no way he would have access to a separate dragon body, yet he still manages to change into his reaverbot form. If you think about it, Servitor Units and Purifier Units are quite alike, in that they were were both created to protect the System and those that ran it, using force if necessary. Unless the Servitor Units were given the ability to transform merely as a means of transport for the Mother Units, I would think that a Purifier Unit would be able to transform too.
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Post by RockMan Trigger on Mar 13, 2006 14:06:35 GMT -5
So if there were a transformation, what do you think it would be? It can't be the blue armor cause if it was they would of mentioned that in MML. This game has alot of mysteries......
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Post by GSG on Mar 13, 2006 14:35:44 GMT -5
Now that's anyone's guess. Personally I think it'd be based on a land animal that was fairly small and agile.
In the original Mega Man series, doesn't Mega Man merge with robot animals made by Dr. Light? Maybe it would be based after one of those...I'm kind of picturing a reaverbot version of Bass' dog at the moment...
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Post by Dashe on Mar 13, 2006 15:26:11 GMT -5
So Gatz and Geetz transform to become transportation, but Sera transforms for a completely different reason--so she can kill Trigger. She essentially becomes a giant weapon of mass destruction. And Juno sort of changed form...maybe the different ranks in the system transform into different things to serve different purposes.
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Post by GSG on Mar 13, 2006 15:31:06 GMT -5
Yeah, Juno didn't really transform though. His original body just got blown up so he switched it. But that kind of makes sense - there isn't really a need for Bureaucratic Units to transform. I get the picture that what happened between Mega Man and Juno was a rare event...
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Post by Dashe on Mar 13, 2006 15:51:39 GMT -5
Yeah, Bureaucrats aren't really fighters either, are they? They just spend a century on standby, awaken once, re-initialize the island, and then shut down again for another hundred years. It sounds kind of boring, if you think about it.
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Post by RockMan Trigger on Mar 13, 2006 15:58:26 GMT -5
never thought of it that way... we should give Juno more credit cause he got killed by trigger while trying to do his job. talk about not fair.
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Post by Shift on Mar 13, 2006 18:03:48 GMT -5
Actually, no. Bureaucratic units were, as you've said Dashe, meant to monitor the islands that they're assigned to, and keep the Carbon count in check, yes. But what RockMan Trigger said about giving Juno "more credit" is a strange remark to make. Not only did Trigger not have his original armor from the system, but rather a suit made by his best friend. And, he's 14, for Elysium's sake. Juno didn't only have a wider variety of attacks than Trigger, but also a gigantic robotic suit. If anything, the underage, prepubescent child deserves ALL of the credit..
Now as for the main topic at hand, I highly doubt that Trigger would be given a special transformation.. Remember, we're not even absolutely sure that Trigger's a Carbon. The information states that Trigger was created from the Master System's (X's) information, or "DNA", for lack of a better word, and that he was created "differently" from everyone else. Maybe the transformation is something that only Carbon's have the ability to do? Also, as Dashe and GSG have already mentioned, it might be due to ranks. Maybe Trigger does not retain the ability to transform for he is only a Purifier. (even if he is a First Class one) Remember, Purifiers were pretty much ranked right above the reaverbots, as they were just the guardians of the system.
And yes, I'm pretty sure that Sera transformed. Think about it, she had no time to get into a different suit, as Juno did, during her final transformation. She emit some light, sparks, and a few explosions, then bang, giant pink rabbit.
Also, as a side-note, has anyone ever taken the possibility that reaverbots and P.A units are Carbons into consideration? Remember that the Master and the remaining humans (at least those willing to stay, and not have their memories stored in Eden) created both reaverbots and all of the other units nearly exactly the same. That's a little strange to ponder on...
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Post by RockMan Trigger on Mar 13, 2006 18:33:49 GMT -5
all you had to say was no. i dont care about all that other stuff.....
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Post by Shift on Mar 13, 2006 21:26:37 GMT -5
*sigh*... I'm not even going to bother anymore... *walks away slowly, whilst rubbing my temples*
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Post by RockMan Trigger on Mar 13, 2006 21:47:34 GMT -5
wait, come back, i said that way before we agreed not to flame each other anymore.
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Post by Dashe on Mar 13, 2006 22:08:33 GMT -5
Reaverbots couldn't possibly be Carbons--for one thing, they probably don't even contain any carbon in their chemical makeup. And they run off of refractors, which would actually classify them as Holon Machines (remember that book in the Kattelox Library? I think that's what they called things that ran off of refractors.)
Then again, if Reaverbots were Carbons, would that mean the people in MML all run off Refractor energy?
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Post by Shift on Mar 13, 2006 23:18:13 GMT -5
But are we sure that Reaverbots run off of refractor shards? Yes, I remember the entry on Holon Machines, but I'm not sure if the same would apply for Reaverbots, as well. I mean, for all we know, they could just be holding the shards, right? Also, the whole "Holon Machine" thing itself is Carbon created information, so the only real answer is known be members of the System. The people on Terra could just be Carbons, made a little differently, as I'm sure that they were created far after the Reaverbots were, and the Reaverbots may just have a more "primitive" (lack of a better word) design, as they were the first to be constructed. (was it the Reaverbots who were first? Or the P.A units? I'm a littls sketchy on that)
But anyway, it is highly unlikely that the Reaverbots are Carbons, but it's fun to consider.
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Post by Heat Sonata on Mar 14, 2006 7:42:46 GMT -5
Yeah, as far as I know, removing the refractor at any ruins has never actually powered down the traps. It may very well be that they don't run on the refractors they hold at all. On the other hand, there are energy cubes and special weapon energy... maybe that's what those things are running on?
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