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Post by pressstart on Jul 13, 2011 17:19:33 GMT -5
I honestly don't know where to stand on this. I've heard all kinds of positive and negative speculation. I guess that's what happens when you don't know the concrete facts of the internal affairs, huh? I'm all for working on something to keep promoting the game. It sounds like some of the biggest fan sites might end start up a campaign soon, so if that happens, get your weapons ready. If not though, I'm all for doing something smaller.
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Post by Dashe on Jul 13, 2011 17:31:23 GMT -5
Operation Rainfall? Never heard of it. *Reads up* Maybe I ought to get a Twitter, I can hardly even figure out how that conversation is flowing to start with.
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Post by pressstart on Jul 13, 2011 17:39:42 GMT -5
I'm pretty surprised you haven't heard of Operation Rainfall. Have you heard anything about Americans trying to get Xenoblade and Last Story localized?
Also I hardly use Twitter either, but I'm just now getting into it.
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Post by Dashe on Jul 13, 2011 18:10:02 GMT -5
I'm not exactly known around these parts for my intense, burning passion for video games...just my intense, burning passion for Mega Man Legends. I mean, if the only book I liked was Twilight,* I wouldn't go around talking about how much I love to read, right? So no, I haven't heard anything about it at all until just now. From what I know about campaigns, though, one unified front tends to work better than just having a bunch of smaller ones. *For the record, I never liked Twilight. And no, I'm not insinuating that Mega Man Legends is anything like it, either.
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Post by ravenf6 on Jul 13, 2011 18:30:44 GMT -5
For the curious, the skinny for Operation Rainfall: oprainfall.blogspot.com/Despite recent developments from NoA, this group still increasing pressure on them, to bring Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower, to the world. Given how the Wii is lacking in the RPG game department, this could be quite an upheaval.. Either way, we're about to enter an unusual stage in this story, quite possibly, the deep breath before the plunge..
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Post by protodude on Jul 13, 2011 23:15:02 GMT -5
One of the major factor's that could influence Legends 3's cancellation will be the Devroom activity. Yes, it's bustling, but it could be better. The campaign I'm kinda tossing around would raise awareness for the Devroom. Capcom wanted 69,000 members worldwide. We only have 10,000. Convert that into sales and... yeah, not pretty.
It's not a-go just yet, merely an idea. We're basically talking about an Operation Rainfall-esque venture with two primary goals: a) raise awareness and encourage people to join the devroom and b) vocalize (i.e plead) to Capcom to stay the course with Legends 3. We'll take a page from O:R's book; send snail-mail letters to Capcom, bombard their Facebook and Twitter, etc. If you guys wanna get cute, everyone involved can snail-mail Capcom's offices drawings of Servbots cheering the Devroom on, or something.
Regardless if Operation Rainfall was a success or not, they did manage to amass an immense following via successful, consecutive "attacks." Their diligence provided viable enough to land them air time on G4, and headline posts over at Kotaku, Game Informer, GameSpy, etc. If we can design a similar campaign that's professional and stable enough, we might have a chance of going "mainstream" too. Only then can more people not regularly attuned to Mega Man news can come to learn that the Devroom exists.
Of course, this would be a collaborative effort. I'm thinking we do this as a group: the bigger Mega Man communities uniting to put this together and diligently "attack". Right now, I'm looking at The Mega Man Network, you guys (Legends Station), Rockman Perfect Memories, the Devroom itself, and my blog. Naturally, leaders of these communities will have to somehow converge and discuss how we're implementing this. Skype, e-mail, something. Other fansites are encouraged to join in, too, of course.
I believe we are fully capable of putting something together, it's just a matter of communicating and doing it rather quickly. The fate of the game rests in our hands just as much as it does in Capcom's. We've got to show them there IS an audience out there.
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Post by Blues on Jul 13, 2011 23:41:20 GMT -5
From what I heard, that was a figurative number, not a literal one (due to the whole 'Rockman/69' number character thing). Nevertheless, the point stands...low numbers at the Devroom(s) may be scaring the Execs over at CoJ, if they're really relating sales to number of registered users. A little foolish of them, kinda, but hey, ball's in their court now it seems. : (Interesting. I've been hearing about this actually (though in this case it's 'cause I'm following you on Twitter ), and am admittedly curious as to what you've got in mind. Hm, y'know, it might help if we talk to the minds behind Op Rainfall and learn a bit about thier strategies. Perhaps effort should be made to get into contact with them? The Mega Man Network sounds like a good choice- if you recall earlier they made that contest to get awareness for the MML3 Prototype Version up, so they might be able to help in the 'organization' aspect. Rockman Perfect Memories and here (Legends Station) might be able to help with organization a little, and they'll definitely help contribute numbers of some sort, but maybe they could also call upon the help of certain members in their communities to use their talents and/or influence in use of certain media (like you mentioned, Twitter or, say Tumblr, things like that) to help spread the word. That'll all be dependent on who individually is willing to help of course, but once you've got a list you/whoever ends up help running the Op should probably assign certain people specific roles- imagine generals to a commanding officer in an army, like that but not as formal perhaps. Your blog and the Devroom might just be good for numbers at the moment, unless you want to contact Greg too (which again, could be useful). Really it seems it'll all be dependent on how we'd(?) act, so the sooner you get those talks started the better. ...Leader of this community? That'd be Dashe, straight up. Luckily she's rather easy to contact, and willing to help I'd bet. (Though you probably knew that... )
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Post by pressstart on Jul 13, 2011 23:48:43 GMT -5
Awesome! I'd definitely be all for that. It is kind of a daunting task though. First off, the case would have to be pretty convincing to get people involved. O:R's ordeal was pretty crystal clear, as Nintendo refused to put up release dates for months on the games. For Mega Man Legends 3, not even all the hardcore fans are convinced that the game's development is in trouble. Also, the very fact that this would be taking place after/during O:R is sure to weaken the enthusiasm of some people (like having two birthday parties in a row). On the OTHER hand, I get the feeling Capcom would be a lot more receptive to it. I would not doubt them happily posting all of the fan-drawings they receive via snail mail. Additionally, this would be one of the few massive Mega Man fan movements I've ever seen (has there been any really?). Anywho, I look forward to anything you guys might come up with.
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Post by protodude on Jul 13, 2011 23:50:52 GMT -5
If we're going to do this, I say there's no better time than the present. I'll contact Dashe and see is she'd like to assist me in streamlining the concept, then pitch it to The Mega Man Network. I've a direct line of communication with them, so I'll be able to pass things on quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 2:23:50 GMT -5
It's not a-go just yet, merely an idea. We're basically talking about an Operation Rainfall-esque venture with two primary goals: a) raise awareness and encourage people to join the devroom and b) vocalize (i.e plead) to Capcom to stay the course with Legends 3. We'll take a page from O:R's book; send snail-mail letters to Capcom, bombard their Facebook and Twitter, etc. If you guys wanna get cute, everyone involved can snail-mail Capcom's offices drawings of Servbots cheering the Devroom on, or something. That sounds like a great idea, Protodude. It would also be great to spread the word everywhere, not just the Mega Man communities. There's also a possibility that there are fans had heard about the Devroom but didn't see the need to join and become a Servbot.
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Post by protodude on Jul 14, 2011 12:06:46 GMT -5
Oh absolutely. The Devroom will play a big part in it... that is, if we do this.
Personally, I think the idea of mailing Servbot cards w/a positive message to Capcom staff is very appealing. It's cute, and it meshes well with the whole concept that we, the fans, are Servbots.
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Post by Dashe on Jul 14, 2011 12:21:11 GMT -5
You know, if only I'd stayed up a few hours later you'd have been able to contact me that much faster.
I'm interested...though flat-out SPAMming them would probably just be annoying. We'll have to be a lot smarter than that collectively. It'd be a good idea to use the last eleven years to our favor, too. There are a lot more people who've been waiting for this game since they were in diapers than there ever were for Xenoblade...hell, I don't think anyone's been waiting for Xenoblade since they were in diapers.
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Post by protodude on Jul 14, 2011 14:28:39 GMT -5
You know, if only I'd stayed up a few hours later you'd have been able to contact me that much faster. I'm interested...though flat-out SPAMming them would probably just be annoying. We'll have to be a lot smarter than that collectively. It'd be a good idea to use the last eleven years to our favor, too. There are a lot more people who've been waiting for this game since they were in diapers than there ever were for Xenoblade...hell, I don't think anyone's been waiting for Xenoblade since they were in diapers. Yeah, forgot spaming... wrong word. "Diligent" is more like it. Agreed with the eleven-years. It's gotta be the selling point.
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Post by Dashe on Jul 14, 2011 15:50:47 GMT -5
It'd also be a good idea to really try and unify every major Mega Man fansite over this, and not just ones that deal with Legends. Especially the ones where they've got a majority of fans still clamoring for a sequel to their own series of choice. Aside from (arguably) Sonic, this is probably one of the most divided fandoms in gaming, and a lot of diehard other-series fans probably don't care so much since this game isn't ZX3/X9/MM11/SF4/whatever. What many of them might not realize is that this game's future could very well directly affect their own sequel's potential. Maybe then a bunch of them would turn around and act more sympathetic instead of viewing it as a giant competition. We need to get a positive atmosphere going for sure.
It could also be a good idea to look into getting support from fans of other games that wound up waiting 10+ years for sequels, too, since many of them know what it's like to wait that long and many were probably jerked around by their respective companies along the way.
We should really hold some kind of official planning board meeting or something.
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Post by protodude on Jul 14, 2011 20:56:01 GMT -5
The more the merrier!
We'll have to think up of an appropriate vehicle to plan and meet with everyone involved. The key to success is staying organized.
10+ year wait, eh? Well, off the top of my head, there's the Duke Nukem fans (DKF). Fourteen years there. Aside from gaming, there's also a handful of movie fans that had to wait years for desired sequels such as Toy Story 3 and Indian Jones 4, just to name a few.
Touching back on the topic of meeting, I feel we'll have to create a new playing field. A project of this caliber needs its own "club house", maybe a forum or something.
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