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Post by ZFGokuSSJ1 on Jul 12, 2004 14:03:06 GMT -5
Hi everyone!
I seriously think we should e-mail Capcom to consider a MML 3, I bet there would be alot of sales!
Post thoughts.
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Post by pitch on Jul 12, 2004 14:41:58 GMT -5
=)
Well I respect the idea, Capcom seems to ignore that. I emailed them about that like 2 years ago, and so did a bunch of people. It's a good idea, but we'd need like a TON of people. Like maybe 1000+ people. And you have to consider the fact that they probably get those e-mails a lot. It's a good idea, and heck, I'll email 'em about it, but I doubt it'd work.
Alright, but let me give ya a few pointers. I'm sure you know what to write in letters like this but maybe for the sake of everyone. the letter has to count.
1. Good Grammar. If they can't understand you, they ignore you. 2. Politeness. Don't be all like: "Hey, capcom! We want Legends 3 and we want it now!" Oh, they love that. You will be ignored. 3. Keep it short and to the point. Don't ramble about how much of a fan you are, either. 4. Don't ask them to reply... They get a ton of letters from tons of people. They can't reply to you just because you ask.. So don't bother.
That said, get out there and e-mail 'em people!
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jul 12, 2004 22:50:29 GMT -5
Au Contraire! As I noted in original, three page, introduction we should start a basic organization about just that sort a thing. Like Pitch said one, two, or thirty five e-mail letters won't dent a corporation like Capcom who probably employs ten thousand times more people than that. (And probably more!)
We need to take existing information and put it to good use. I read in a former post that the mastermind behind MML and MML2 wanted to make a MML3 if he could get relief from some of his other projects. A good first step to MML3 would be to e-mail questions about MML and other games rumors, so THEY could reinforce or deny them. In other words a few hundred e-mails asking the same question gets boring, so a cunning e-mail mildly suggesting they have a sub-site attached to capcom.com for such things. Now that would be a step in the right direction, and we could really work off that, but ultimately the first thing we need is commitments from a few hundred (different) e-mail accounts and a ringleader of sorts.
For the most part, people like me who would definitely buy a copy or two, and maybe get some attachments, should write a paragraph about how you/I liked MML 1&2 and how I'd enjoy a third installment, blah, blah, blah.
Then an accomplished Fanartist could send in an attached picture or link to their site full of them, to enhance their opinion.
And someone like fab could be a cornerstone of our case. He's made multiple web site, made dozens of fanarts, has a forum running, and many, many other credentials. That and he'd buy an English version, and a backup, and a Japanese version, and a back up, and who knows how many other copies he'd have to buy after his PS3 melted those. Outside of divine intervention it'll probably be a PS3 by then.
But a very important thing is that in each letter we write, MML3 should be the first words of the subjectb to let them know that we stand united.
Well that's a rough sketch of a plan, though it has some serious flaws and lacks a ringleader. I'd propose a leader but its not my place to do so, as they need to be serious about it, and would practically have to propose them self. So what do you say? Should we begin a drive to make MML3?
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Post by Shelldragon on Jul 13, 2004 0:06:53 GMT -5
We need something more solid than just emails though. While emails are convienient, they just aren't as proffessional and read as seriously as solid paper is. Snail mail still is the best way to get companies to pay attention to you. It shows that you really want to be taken seriously. Just a little bit extra effort and a stamp can go a long way. But this is a very great idea even though it's simple. All we need is the determination and organization. Good job BM and Pitch and of course Goku for starting the thread - organizing will be a key factor!
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Post by pitch on Jul 13, 2004 2:08:44 GMT -5
Well...
I'm often a ringleader of sorts in these such riots.... err... I mean organizations. Yes organizations... That's what I meant. Yeah, riots. Err... No! Organizations! I meant organizations... Umm.... I volunteer.
As far as the things that being a ringleader involves, I fear I may not be fit to be a leader, as I'm much less... involved in the games as other people here, but I know my basic stuff, and some more complicated stuff, and I know I enjoyed both games. I'm willin' to give it 110%.
I like this idea, because we should get Capcom to get their butts away from Battle Network, X, and Zero, and get back to their too long un-touched project, Legends(DASH). And organizing it sweetens the deal, as it increases the possibility of results by a note-able(is that "notable"?) margin. The problem is, how can we rally hundreds of people to e-mail to this cause? I'm sure we could get a bunch of people from here, and other MegaMan online communities, but we need more. I'm not sure what we could do... That's definitely a problem.
I like the idea of written letters, because that is more personal, but they'd alll have to be CLEAR. Able to READ THEM. Some people don't get that. Yes? We all know how to read, yes? If you can't write neat, either e-mail or type, print out, and send it as regular mail. And with written letters, again I must emphasise, GRAMMAR and SPELLING. If you write something like: "Deer Capcomm, I wanted u 2 no how much I liek teh MegaMan Leginds Games. There shuld b a MML3. Plz make 1, k?" I don't know what they'd do, but if it were me... well, I hope you didn't supply a return address. Ya know? It's not enough for like a n00b-ish person to do that in Email, but when a person writes it, it's like "Geez, it's just some kid that played the game. They probably won't care in a few days anymore."
Keep it neat, keep it organized, either way. E-mail, or written, just get the point accross in a way that more people than you yourself can understand.
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Post by Shelldragon on Jul 13, 2004 8:28:34 GMT -5
Like Pitch said, if you can't write with your hands with neatness then you should type it. Also, send me your letters and I'll gladly proofread them as I'm sure others here would as well. Heck, i'll even get my mom to proofread. She graduated with an English major. Spellcheck can only go so far and it doesn't catch all the errors you can make. Just PM it to me or if i'm online you can send it through a messenger. E-mail isn't very reliable for me right now, sorry.
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jul 13, 2004 8:41:55 GMT -5
Yes lets not get ahead of ourselves. I've revised my stance on the ringleader. I'm betting most of you think that means I want to be the boss, but no. Originally I had fab in mind because he's such a clear figurehead, but I neglected to call for his leadership because when I say I feel for someone when they say their life is at full , I mean it. However my reform comes by way of suggestion. Pitch I've been here less than you and while I'm obviously a kingpin of words, or a blabbermouth as some may think, cough*shlldrgn*cough, we're in the same boat. There are dozens of people here more qualified than us. Additionally fab, as far as I have seen, is the oldest. If fad doesn't feel like leading a band of rioters, er... protesters... still to resilient. How about Mega Maniacs? (if anybody has a better name, and I know somebody will, then post it). In any case if he doesn't want to spearhead this one then he names a canndidate and we go with it. Any objections and we'll deal with it later, but in the words of our late president, "Trust but Verify." Pitch I need you to do me a favor. Go look up 'block letter format' at dictionary.com or somewhere and post a basics to it in, 'Comments, Questions and Complaints,' if fab will let you. It shouldn't be that hard, I could try doing it off the top of my head but I'd probably miss something, and besides you're the one who's so big on punctuation. You and Shelldragon have a good point, letters by mail, make a better sale or something like that and in addition to your points I do believe a more professional format is called for. Likewise ZFGokuSSJ1 you seemed so eager to e-mail capcom, post the e-mail address you were going to send to, and if its possible try to find a good longhand address for the cause's sake as well. Heaven knows we need them both on record as soon as possible. Meanwhile I'll be relaxing in my pool, drinking fruit punch from a tall glass with a little umbrella in it, and working on my tan . Just kidding, I'll commit some serious thought to the 'how in satan's hell are we going to get even a thousand people to send letters in' problem. Shelldragon you too, and see if you can't get Fire Griffin to read this because she was saying something about recuitment. That will be our dept. until the soon to be Director of Megaman reInitalization 3 takes office. Hmmm... DM I-3... maybe we should stick with calling him the ringleader? a joke I assure you, there's no way fab will pass this up, unless something big happens in which case it'll probably go to feldiaut, but time will tell.
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Post by fAB on Jul 13, 2004 10:46:26 GMT -5
Just last night I heard from Blyka that SuperDanny said I was the only thing keeping Legends going while Capcom sits on their lazy butts. LOL Or something to that effect anyway.
I guess it's only natural to envision me as the ringleader of a movement such as this, for reasons already posted by others. If we are to officially band together to try and make a difference, I would be only too honored to be at the head of the operation. Though I must say I think chances for making a difference are very slim, especially since we don't even have 100 members here, let alone 1,000. Still, it can't hurt to tell Capcom how we feel!
I think there are some good suggestions already as to how to go about it. Written letters (or typed to avoid messy handwriting) mailed in would, I agree, have more credibility. However I don't see how it can hurt to send e-mails in addition. Letters have to be opened and considered and take longer for the process to complete, but e-mails have advantages, such as they can be sent quickly and easily, and in large numbers (many people have multiple addresses). We are also more likely to rally online support if we push for a big e-mail campaign as well, as it's easier to convince fans to send an e-mail than it is to get them to write and send a letter.
More importantly is what our messages (in either format) have to say. Yes, grammar and spelling are essential to being taken seriously. There are many issues to discuss, ranging from impatient fan waiting patiently for years, to Keiji Inafune's announcement of his desire to work on another Legends/Dash game if he had the time. Another angle which I feel is important is that Capcom is a company-thus we need to appeal to the money-making aspects as well. The Legends series was nowhere near as popular and profitable as its other Mega Man games, thus we have reached a 4 year stagnation. However, there are a lot of things which would be in favor for a return of Legends in a finacial sense, starting with the fact that Anime has become a HUGE hit, it's known everywhere now. The Legends series is totally Anime-based from its character design to its shading techniques, it even officially says so in the Dash OST booklet.
I am going to write up a mock letter of what I would say to Capcom and then I will post it here to get everyone's feedback. If we can work together right here to create what looks like a perfect system, then we have the means to go big time with it. Meaning, we can rally support by posting it on Legends Station, which receives well over 100 visitors daily. If our scheme really looks good, I may even be able to ask some of our affiliates to put out the word. Perhaps Planet Mega Man where they receive an average of 3,000 hits per day last I looked, and Mega Man Network probably receives just as many if not more. Of course I can't and wouldn't want to manipulate my affiliates, and of course I'm getting ahead of myself here, but I'm just trying to make the point that we can make it go big, but we need it to be solid first.
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Post by data on Jul 13, 2004 11:34:20 GMT -5
I am part of a huge bionicle website I can make a forum abuot it if you want me to it has 500 members.
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Post by ZFGokuSSJ1 on Jul 13, 2004 12:23:06 GMT -5
Most of the posts on this board indicate everyone has good spelling and grammar. (I was #1 speller in my class from kindergarten-now!)
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Post by pitch on Jul 13, 2004 12:25:55 GMT -5
Googled Block Letter Format, found this. ... I forgot about Planet MegaMan!! >_< There's tons of people there! I'm such an idiot.... Umm... There's also Rockman EXE Online which, yes it is mostly the EXE series, but it has a forum, and I'm sure a handful of DASH fans could be dug up there. And if all else fails, there's... (don't hate me) the GameFAQs Boards.
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Post by fAB on Jul 13, 2004 13:45:40 GMT -5
Well forums and message boards are nice, but they don't receive nearly as many visitors as the actual web sites that accompany them. I was considering the possibilities of news posts, as in on the main news page of sites. A thread started here in these Forums would only reach perhaps 1/10th of the amount of people that would be reached by actually putting an announcement on Mega Man Legends Station itself. Same applies to PMM and MMN, only even moreso. Being affiliates of MMLS, they may just be willing to help us spread the word. MMLS is not affiliates with Rockman EXE Online...
P.S. Actually Keenan, I'd say a good portion of members here (no names being mentioned) have awful spelling and grammar. It's not hard to find.
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Post by pitch on Jul 13, 2004 14:33:15 GMT -5
Rockman EXE online is affiliated with both the MegaMan Network and Planet MegaMan. If you think you're unable to get help from them, maybe they can. I'm just saying, it's a good site with a good number of people that are really interested in Mega Man/Rockman and would probably support the idea of a new Legends game. Ryouko(the webmistress there) would probably support it. Unless there's some other reason. *shrug* just a suggestion.
I'm great in the advertising business. You give me somethin' to advertise, and I'll do it. I'd gladly promote this. It would be a lot easier if there were like a central site or even a page dedicated to this. Either way, I'll help as much as I can! ;D
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jul 13, 2004 15:28:24 GMT -5
Huzah! Data's on our side we can't fail now. Actually after reading all the posts I must admit there are good points all around. Bravo Pitch, you got the format information sooner than I expected. Now we have a ringleader, we need some foundation. Should we try for a marketing base, for advertisement and recruitment, or should we stick it out in commission?
When it comes to the letters I side with fab, both mediums are fine, and let me add that both are better. Something that you have to count by hand cannot be assessed as quickly as a file on your computer. But all the same I think we should try to take a professional outlook on it, if they see a hundred letters of all the same format they can disposition them as MML Movement mail and just add one to the tally. The subject is meant for discussion, however, so post your thoughts.
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Post by pitch on Jul 13, 2004 15:44:19 GMT -5
I have an idea. We should all have a signature. A common thing among the letters in our group. So that way, they'll know that we all grouped together for it, and that we're not just a bunch of random fans. Anything. A symbol, a phrase, whatever. We gotta make it so they know that we're in this together though.
Just my thoughts.
You give me a site to advertise for this. Heck, even this page if you want me to, and I'll whip up a banner and do some advertising like crazy on the net. I'm present on many many many message boards, much of which related to Rockman/Mega Man, and others have fans there too. I can advertise on message boards, no problem! ;D It may not bring many, but we need all that we can get right? And if there's a Central site or an actual page(apart from message boards) for this, it'll probably work better, because even some of the people we don't reach may stumble on it on accident. Again, I'll do what I can!
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