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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jan 22, 2005 4:03:53 GMT -5
(This topic was formerly renamed Religious Discussion from MLU, Contiued... Bwahahahahaha... ... the last part was omited to save space.)
(this topic was formerly called "The problem with MLU")
Okay, since I have some things to hash out with Fire 'Empire, Retire, Bill Meyer (how I hate him)' Griffin, and GustaffGlyde, and since I'm not going back to MLU's thread for discussion since our friend UFO asked me so kindly to leave... even though I did post the fact that I could see right through his lie, though not in those words, I am somewhat sorry I did since apparently people can't take my brand of politics as well as I can take theirs. I'm referring to his end-all post of,
'Something, something, something, I guess there are only two absolutes...
Bureaucratic Model 1-3 > Me
Everyone Else > Me'
I noticed later that he erased it, the only smart thing to do, but all the same, and for the love of glory, it's like something that occurred to me a while ago. Put into as FEW words as possible its 'Don't tell me I'm wrong, unless I am' and that's the way it works. He put forth that nonsensical parable of 'THE APPLE' and expected great things to come from it? NO! He expected to be patted on the back, which is not good. Something's NEED to be hashed out, something's don't need jack. Evolution vs. Creation for example, neither side can say anything FOR SURE because neither side was there, so both of them should just sit on their thumbs and as for what children learn in school, both sides should be represented, but neither side embraced or elaborated upon. As for Fate or Destiny if ANY of you come in here parading the knownothingness of John Calvin then, as the scouts say, Be Prepared, because that isn't going to fly in Jacko country. I'm ranting, I'll stop.
GustaffGlyde,
you said on MLU that you don't want to impose you're beliefs on others but for a lot of things that's the way it has to be. Plural Marrage, for instance, and abuse. Some people have it all worked our in their danm fool heads, that what they do is there business so keep out of it. When really, if you want to divorce you wife it's none of my business, but if you want to beat your wife then I should make it my business, and if the police find out then they make it THEIR business. That is a Modern-Christian belief that is being imposed on that person. Whereas in Muslim land they have news segments about what kind of sticks to use to beat your wife with. Someday they will be a people of no women, or a people forgotten by time.
But one thing I must add. Being a Christian and Being in a republic does make you a better person, but not in word but deed. Being in a Republic does not mean that I am equal to you, but YOU are equal to Me. Therefore all peoples in a Republic, especially Christians who adhere to the code are compelled to do better than others. There are three kinds of people to me. Mormons. Non-Mormons. And AntiMormons/AntiChristians. The only people who I give a fair shake are the Non-Mormons. The Mormons themselves are either the best sort of people, or scum buckets, and even though that's usually if they don't even try, there are a lot of them out there. AntioMormons/AntiChristians can move to California, I don't like them, I never will. However 'good Christians' are something to be reckoned with, not 'believers,' but people who actually have Charity. I'm rambling, I'll stop.
Fire 'only needs to read this and not ALL of G.staffGlyde's' Griffin
What do you mean look at the Muslims? Christianity includes NA, SA, old Europe, Japan for a large part, and that's about the list. Who else, that isn't outright satanic, has virtually moved the world for the past fourteen hundred years?
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Post by GustaffGlyde on Jan 22, 2005 9:01:50 GMT -5
Hay u Jack calvon is like the startest person on erth and you are like Bm 1-3<everting Okay, I’m done acting like a moron. And why must everyone pervert the X>Y statement. It’s Juno > Everything, crazy people… Alright, now I’m done being a moron… And yay, I get more words than FG. I win Monopoly! I feel so special, but I seriously need to shake off the morning stupidity and get down to the lovely apple core here. When I was talking about imposing beliefs, I mainly meant religion. You see, when you try to impose a way of thinking on someone it typically either creates a false belief (they believe, but only because they have no choice) or more strife between two groups. As for those ‘danm’ fools (… it’s a new swear that encompasses one’s hate for people by the name of Dan… or maybe it has to do with Danimals. Either way it outdoes the other swears) who beat their wives are not going to be ignored. Saving the wife doesn’t mean your imposing your religion and beliefs. Whenever you try to impose your beliefs on another group, it ends badly. Nazis and Europe, Terrorists and the ‘West’, Communist and Europe, That crazy lawyer man and 99% of America, Barney and Europe, Bert and Ernie, Europe and Europe, Jacko and Jacko country, Waffleism and Europe, and so on. As for being a Republic, I doubt many can say otherwise (and yes, America is a Republic, not a Democracy. There is a difference). I guess what I’m trying to say is that if the world were 100% Christian and honestly followed its moral code then the world would be a paradise, but if you try to force it upon people then the paradise will quickly turn sour. When you impose, you either get strife or false believers. You can liberate someone from being abused by someone else’s ideology, but you can’t then impose yours on them. You can free the wife from the abusive husband, but you can’t force her to become a waffle-ite just because you saved her. *cues the Waffle Empire National Anthem*
Hail Butter, Hail Syrup, and Hail the Almighty Waffle. As a proud follower of the ideology of Waffleism (it may not be a well known ideology yet, but just you wait! We have an entire basement under our control, and soon plan to expand our holdings to include a bathroom and a few closets. If you wish to join our cause then just come to… wait, it’s a secret. *sigh* This is why we only have four members… I mean forty… hundred… thousand… yeah…) I’d have to say that imposing beliefs will get you nowhere in the long run. The best way to spread an ideology is by example, not by force. If people see that Jerry calls himself a Christian, but is always saying how much better he is and how he is always right and tends to judge others and their way of thinking, then it makes Christianity look bad. On the other hand, if Johnny calls himself a Christian and is friendly towards others and helpful, kind, and compassionate then it may make some curious about Christianity. Well, I’ll let FG answer her little tiny paragraph but… since when was Japan a major Christian country… last time I checked it was more… ah, I’ll just let FG take it from here. Wheeeeeeeeee… Coffee = caffinee… Whheeeeeeeeeeeeeee
(I was not mentaly stable during the writing of this post due to intoxication by caffine. Don’t blame me if it sounds crazy… and yes, I’m going to go eat waffles for it is the tradition of my people and part of my heritage. I’m a waffle-ite and proud of it! Also, I’m part Bagel-ite. Hagel the Bagel! Don’t ask…) |
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jan 22, 2005 14:36:58 GMT -5
As for those ‘danm’ fools (… it’s a new swear that encompasses one’s hate for people by the name of Dan… or maybe it has to do with Danimals. Either way it outdoes the other swears) GustaffGlyde I have painstakingly made a panel with buttons on them with all your names, and attached each button to the sound of a 'scream maker'... Congratulations, this morning your button broke. Over usage you know... very... disappointing. However, otherwise, you of course know that in spite of my, YOU MUST BE GREATER TO MAKE THEM GREATER, thing, I'm not one who prefers to have somebody just give up in disgust, or go down in a great ball of flames. As for imposing Religion, I think/believe that religion should rear its head in laws, whereas it is an impossibility to force you're religion on other people without their consent, however there are different levels of force, of course, there's pressure, which can be good since all people tend to slack off... morally, to say the least, and then there's the old phrase, convert or die, which doesn't fly in most regions now. However you're not acting like I'm insisting that it be imposed are you? It might seem like I am, but I'm not... BTW, when it comes to Japan, they have a lot of influences, but their incorporation of Christianity, as well as general acceptance of Western Culture, makes the line ultimately blurred, even though they are Shinto/Buddhist/Christian, either in that or Buddhists/Shinto/Christian order. However a positive influence is undeniable. |
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Post by megadude v 2.0 on Jan 22, 2005 15:27:12 GMT -5
Okay I have somethings to say about imposing religion.
1. I belive religion should die. you can practice religion but not believe it. It is just cereomonies and traditions.
2. you shouldn't have to impose at all. if you have passion for God, they will come to you seeking answers. they will see something in you that is different, holy. you can't always rely on that technique, though. but if you follow the promptings of the holy spirit, a way to minister will be opened for you. this dosen't always work, but just talking to a person about God plants seeds in their heart.
The only real difference between christians and muslims and hindus is that we christians can have a personal relationship with the Father, and we can become his sons and daugthers, allowing us to claim inheritance from God. As it clearly states in Genesis 1:26, we have diminion over the earth, we just have to claim it.
I'm sorry if i bored you, but i think it's important for all the christians to know this. My final statement is that we as christians are commanded to go into the world and bring the kingdom of god on earth (Matthew 28: 18-20). check the Lord's pray: Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jan 22, 2005 16:59:30 GMT -5
I hate to say this but you might want to consider trading in both those brain cells for one that works. If G.staffGlyde had posted that I would be very sad, but briefly let me explain something. Notwithstanding the Dictionary definition, when I say impose that means, among other things, to chastise, to inform, to give our opinion, not to force something in total upon somebody.
You believe religion should die... Nothing redeemable about that comment, not even as an opinion.
Muslims and Christians may be similar, but Muslims and MODERN Christian Beliefs are night and day, or better yet, good and evil.
As for your quoting the Lords prayer, I have it memorized, I have little doubt that GustaffGlyde and yourself have at least read it over several times, but I don't see your point. True the 'will of the lord' comes to pass as the current demands, but if we do not do our part then we are worthless, lazy, as opposed to anything else.
I might be offensive in this post, but you're the first person on this thread to try and propose absolute like any of US could know. Fire 'Word Paint, Patron Saint' Griffin said something I object to impossibly on MLU, that she wasn't so sure the Bible was a thinkers book, however she did not say, or try to make it look, like she had the final word on the subject. You did.
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Post by GustaffGlyde on Jan 22, 2005 19:43:03 GMT -5
Well, here goes... Paragraph 1: … yup, I really did outdo myself this morning. It’s my Caffeinated Coffee powers. ‘Danm’ you BM 1-3… Pargraph 2: Darn it, what are we talking about? I’m talking about imposing religion on impressionable kiddies in school, not the white wig wearers and aisle warriors. Kids will conform to the majority a lot of the time (yes, even Goths. They say otherwise, but if you actually think about it…). You see, it’s no different than teaching evolution to me since both can’t be proven. What I originally proposed was to present several religions and theories and let the kids decide on their own. Paragraph 3: … Well, actually Japan… ah, never mind. Let’s just say it’s not so ‘we love America’ as you seem to think. MegaDude Paragraph 1: … well, you see that’s just not right. You see, religion may be old but it isn’t just a gaggle of boring ceremonies. Well, in some Churches maybe, but at least not where I’m from. Religion needn’t die, I just don’t want religion being forced on the kiddos. Let them decide on their own I say, and you really wouldn’t want someone forcing you to be Islamic and study their religion and have your entire future based on the grades you get in it, especially if your, say, Jewish. Paragraph 2: Basically what I was saying. You can do better by example than by force. You can preach, but don’t force people to listen. If you live a good life then people will want to know what makes you you. On the other hand, if you jump up on a box and give a fire and brimstone speech, most people are just going to think you’re a jerk and begin to hate Christianity. It’s because of some people like the latter that Christianity comes off as a judgmental and discriminatory religion when its not. Paragraph 4: … I’ll just move on to BM 1-3 again The Return of BM 1-3, from the …! Paragraph 1: And now you tell usame… So long as you’re not making it so that a kid feels like he has to convert, then I’m okay. Using Christianity’s morals and the such are a good thing and would no doubt help the sad excuse for a public school system we have. My Mom teaches at a public school, and a ‘School of the Arts’ no less, though methinks they had to bribe someone to get that title seeing as they have practically no arts program. Her kids, sixth grades, are running around swearing and talking about gangs and all that lovely stuff. We’ve had two bomb threats, a trash can fire, a kid who decided to leave his fecal matter in the middle of the floor, a kid who attacked a teacher with a chair (oh, and the teacher was punished because she tried to stop the kid), and so on. I would love to have a moral code in place, just not a religion. Religion is a choice the kid must make, not something a teacher, politician, or parent can make for them. Paragraph 2: Yup… Paragraph 4: I’m not saying we should sit back in our recliners and drink wafflebeer all day. If you go on a missions trip, you don’t force people to come. You help out around the neighborhood, play with the kids, and so on and the people will then want to have what you have, and I don’t mean your wallet. On the other hand, going in and rounding up the people like cattle into a church and forcing them to listen to a sermon will most likely make a lot of them hate you. Paragraph 5: Bah, you may seem offensive to some, but I don’t mind. It’s just a debate of sorts. As for the Bible being a book for thinkers, yes and no. Basically, if you are a thinker and are inclined to ask questions and you read and are interested in the Bible, it will seem like a book for thinkers. In other words, it depends on the person and their interests. I think we can safely say that if you bestest friend ADP read the Bible, it would seem just like a history book. BM 1-3 is a thinker, interested in the subject, and therefore the Bible is a book for thinkers to him. To me, I do ask questions when I read but it never comes off as a book I’d spend a whole lot of time thinking over (you know, like spending hours on end going over a couple of verses). On the other hand, I can read a good book or play a good game and I’ll try to think about all the underlying meanings, figure out the unexplained things, etc. It really just depends on the person. The Bible does tend to provoke deep thought by nature, but if you aren’t a thinker it wouldn’t matter. When it all comes down to it, I can sum this up in a couple words.
“Not wooden stake, wood in stake.” And on a side note, what are ‘penuts’. Do I want to know? I mean, peanuts are good, but what could a ‘penut’ be? ‘Danm penuts’ Yeah, I enjoy doing stuff like this… though now all I can think of is peanuts… curses… |
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jan 22, 2005 20:58:10 GMT -5
Eh... You don't seem to get me G.staff. When it comes to kids, I think that if their parents go to church then they should go to church, even though in my religion the kids roll around on the floor while the parents try/pretend to pay attention or try/pretend to keep their kids quiet, but I don't know what its like in other churches for the most part. When it comes to school I think that religion should have a personal place, but like I said, neither side should be claimed as truth, since there are no absolutes when it comes to that. As for Japan, I'm not saying that their for the US, I'm saying that they're assimilated to western culture. Get on the ball. Penuts is how you spell Peanuts when you don't really care. And when it comes to the bible I would have to promote its candidacy, when its not recounting stories, as the dullest book on earth. That's why its a thinkers book, you have to take it out of context and put it in real time. I mean its not like M. Night Shalahan, and if I spelled that right then Huzzah! but if not then don't mention it...  , you see one of his movies and thinking is inevitable... unless your an ingrate/American-esque liberal who knows that all life is precious, as defined by our hippie forefathers, and no other thought is necessary. As for Fire 'read the bible... I wonder...' Griffin's attempt to read it as an 'ancient text' she failed miserably to get the point and that was what she got. |
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Post by GustaffGlyde on Jan 22, 2005 22:07:31 GMT -5
Paragraph 1: Kweh... Paragraph 2: Well, that’s really up to the parents to force their kids. It’ll get you nowhere in the long run as a lot of kids who were forced to go to church end up as the strongest anti-Christian people (my eldest sister is a prime example). Now, not all do (I didn't at least), but when you force people to go it makes religion look like an obligation. It’s a choice, one we make on our own. If we don’t make it on our own, we are only fooling ourselves. On school, we mostly agree. Neither can be proved and as such they require faith so we should try and teach both. Maybe they should have a course on religion or something. Paragraph 3: As for the Japan thing… Ah, why bother. A lot of people seem to think of it as a utopia so why say otherwise. It is westernized though so… Paragraph 4: LIES! Paragraph 5: … So only boring stuff is for thinkers? I’ll just hope I interpreted that wrong because that just isn’t so. Granted, not everyone will find something interesting, but some find it fascinating. As for the rest… ah, who cares… Other stuff: We all have our views of the world and nothing will change them. In fact, it’s for the best to have two parties, ideals, companies, etc that compete. If there were no liberals, America would soon fall into corruption. Likewise, no Republicans and a similar fate awaits us. Even some Christians became corrupt during the medieval era because they could control the simple masses with religion and few tried to stop them (Not all did, but there were cases of corruption within the Church). End: Alright, I’m done with this. I’ve stated my beliefs and BM 1-3 has his beliefs. I’m here at MMLS to discuss MML, not fight over ideals. It won’t get us anywhere, so why do we need this pointless strife? I’m not changing and you aren’t changing and FG is avoiding us completely so… Well, it’s getting pointless anyways. We’re just restating the same thing over and over. ~fin EDIT STUFF No, I'm not angry. I can get angry if provoked, but I can't stay angry for more than maybe an hour. I don't mind continuing the discussion, it just seemed to be getting repetitive. ~fin? Tune in next week to find out! [/center] |
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jan 22, 2005 22:47:23 GMT -5
True enough, but tell me you're bored, and that's fine, tell me you're angry and that's disappointing.
Just three things, one, FG, I do believe, hasn't been on MMLS for the past couple of days, I don't think she's avoiding us, but I don't know. Two, I'm with President Washington; we should have one party and different people and ideas running it. That way the white bread can't just point to the other side of the isle and blame them. And finally, I suppose you're right on the church thing, but in my defense I was referring to small children who weren't just going to be left home anyways, I see that you were referring to parents trying to strong arm teenagers into going, and while I would typically still side with the parents, I didn't go to church for a year or two, so what am I going to say?
Just in case you're getting ticked off, don't be like Shelldragon. She had a political sight that was a lot worse than this. I was conservative, everybody else was liberal. It didn't end well, I got thrown off, and the thing was I didn't even know that she was taking herself so seriously. Consider this finished after this post, I'll just sit it out for FG, but if you're getting mad then get over it, logic is, as you stated, we both have our pre-dispositions, no use bickering.
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Post by Fire Griffin on Jan 22, 2005 23:28:31 GMT -5
Actually, I'm too lazy at the moment to post something thoughtful - which is probably for your betterment. Don't worry, my brain might pick up and look over what I last said in the thread and come up with something sooner or later. I'm not in a debating mood at the moment.
*thumbs up*
Edit: Meh, I dunno if you had caught this or not since you did not mention a thing about this post but for the hell of it, I'll phrase this better since I should not assume from posts:
Since I tend to look at things from both sides, this is out of curiousity and perhaps for the sake of better seeing things from your point of view: BM, which Christian sect are you from?
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Post by aarond on Jan 23, 2005 0:18:14 GMT -5
Wow. Well, I've never been to MMLU, but I can't possibly pass up a chance to get in on discussion about the Bible.
The thing you have to remember about the Bible is that while it serves as the blueprint for the Christian religion, in many ways it is flawed, both because of the process of its creation and the numerous translations it has endured over the centuries.
The Old Testament actually has probably survived a bit better, if for no other reason than because Christians can compare it to the Jews' copies to make sure everything is..."kosher". Heh heh.
The New Testament is a whole different animal. While a lot of the books in the NT were written originally in Greek, several were also written in Aramaic and Hebrew, meaning that by the time the King James Version was published, the books of the New Testament had gone through no less than three different translations, by three different denominations of the faith:
Aramaic/Hebrew---Greek---Latin---English
(the three denominations would have been Catholic, Orthodox, and Anglican.)
Moving on, the Bible itself was a document which was constituted by a political body, Roman Emperor Constantine and his advisors, who made Christianity the official religion of Rome. The books were, to an extent, made to emphasize inherent male saintliness to keep the current order of things in power. (If that sounds a little like the "Da Vinci Code," it's because that book was rooted in certain half-truths and twists on actual events, even though it was fiction. If you read it and get confused, it's okay.)
That being said, remember that even in the earliest days of Christianity, Paul, Peter, the other apostles, and their followers were expecting the Second Coming to have been within their lifetimes, or, if not that soon, at least within the next three generations or so. Since obviously that was not the case, certain things that were said in Romans, Thessalonians, and other books of the New Testament have to be taken in the context in which they were written.
For instance, Paul's take on marraige, which was basically, "Don't fool around unless you're married." There was no mention of children in his epistle to the Romans, because he didn't think the world would be around long enough to worry about the next generation.
I've run overlong here, so to sum up, one has to keep an "opener" mind about religion than anything else, even politics, or whatever. Anyway, there we are.
Just don't start talking that crap about God being female. Or I'll shoot you.
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Jan 24, 2005 0:44:18 GMT -5
Wow that was actually informative. True, the variations are nuisance, but my favorite sect of scripture is the D&C, but if you don't know what that is then  . As for God being a woman, it's always something like that, he's either black, or a woman, or in the case of a very muppet X-mas, a black woman, and even worse Whoopie Goldberg. That was just sad. |
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Post by aarond on Jan 24, 2005 19:43:33 GMT -5
Don't forget about Morgan Freeman and Charlton Heston (no, not Ten Commandments; he played God in Almost an Angel).
And George Burns. Most. Definitive. God. EVER.
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Post by megadude v 2.0 on Jan 24, 2005 21:15:14 GMT -5
definition of religion:
playing church, not really there for god.
example there because your parents were, or the Pharisees.
that's what i meant.
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Post by PharaohManXe54 on Jan 27, 2005 0:04:11 GMT -5
Before I state my opinion, let me just get the modly stuff out of the way: CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS TOPIC!!! I came into this topic hoping to roast MMLU (oops, did I say that out loud?) and was GREATLY surprised to find this. Just change it, k? Second, before I state my opinion: As for God being a woman, it's always something like that, he's either black, or a woman, or in the case of a very muppet X-mas, a black woman, and even worse Whoopie Goldberg. That was just sad. I HAVE TO RENT THIS MOVIE!!!! That has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard! Quick comment on this: Does it really matter what God looks like? It's good to have a representation (you'll see why I think this in a bit) but let's not kill each other over it!!!! Finally, let me just say that I don't hold ANY of the things said in this topic against ANY of you, and I'd expect the same from you guys about me, k? You guys are probably gonna get all mad when I say this, but some of you probably already know this: I'm a conservative, Republican Catholic. The way I was taught (let's see.... 13 years of Catholic education) makes me aware of things and I try to see things from a different perspective, so I kinda know where you're coming from, but you don't really touch on a lot. This notion that I seem to be getting from some of you is that "Church is bad! Down with the establishment!" really isn't true. The people that are doing the bad things are the bad part of the group or "sect." Perfect example: Catholic priest scandals. I go to a school where priests teach, and that stuff never happens. These people who call themselves priests are just perverts. They in no way represent the Catholic faith. The pope doesn't send a letter out to the parishes saying that priests should be able to molest children. That's my point about generalization. Now for a message about Christians. As I said before, don't generalize. I'm sorry, but I have to say this: Catholics aren't all about "The Bible" and stuff like Evangelical Christians are and we aren't told to "Preach the word", we're told to live it. There is another side to it: Tradition. The things that are passed down by word of mouth are just as important. You Christians probably know about the Stations of the Cross, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but where in the Bible does it describe this? You have to use the Bible to interpret it's meaning. You can't take the word of God literally, cause Jesus himself talked in parables. When Jesus gave the parable about the thief in the night, he didn't mean that a thief was going to come into your house when the end of the world comes and if you're prepared to take him down you'll go to heaven. He meant that you should always "Be Prepared." Now let me just get this across: Don't lump Christians into a general group cause there are GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT differences between all of them..... WARNING!!!! I'm gonna say something bad about liberals (we are kind of talking about politics, right? Face it: you can't divorce politics from religion). Don't take it personally, k? Like I said, don't generalize. Second about imposing. I assume someone liberal at MLU (I don't know if it was just GustaffGlyde, but I'm assuming it was more than one seeing that ADP and PR are there) said that Christians impose their faith upon people. Well guess what? A LOT OF LIBERALS DO THE EXACT SAME THING!!!! Michael Moore will lie and scare you just so he can have his way. He doesn't even give a second thought to who he's hurting. So many people in that movie were taken out of context and were never asked for permission to be used in a movie. THIS IS A FACT. NOT AN OPINION. Second, here's an example from the good ole' state of Wisconsin. At an MPS (Milwaukee [largest city in Wisconsin, FYI] PUBLIC schools) school, an 8th grade teacher told her students that if they wore black (a symbol of mourning, mind you. Don't try to read into this as something "innocent") on the second inaguration of President George W. Bush, they could go to a pizza party. Now does this sound like imposing your beliefs on impressionable people??? Back to the "Church bad" thing. I don't think that the Church is imposing that people go to it (BTW, I LOVE going to church. It's fun. Sorry, I'm a religious nerd), I think it's just the opposite. I think that our main stream culture is imposing on kids that going to Church is stupid. A lot of kid's lack identity, so they try to join the biggest group, and, let's face it, most kids hate going to church, so they're embarassed to go to Church so they don't go (Sorry for sometimes capitalizing Church and sometimes not. I'm still debating which one is correct). Random Thoughts:1.) Athesim is a religion. Maybe they don't believe in a higher power, but they still have a belief in an after life: there is no after life. 2.) Without religion (or with Aethism. Sorry, I almost generalized there), I see no purpose for existance. I feel really bad for those of you who don't have a religion. 3.) Christianity has done more good than bad and has done more good then the people who complain that it's evil. 4.) KNOW STUFF BEFORE YOU SAY STUFF!!!! 5.) Don't think that you're opinion is the end all and be all. Be open to criticism. Please tell me if I got a fact wrong. Thank you. 6.) Take a page from FFX and think that the ideals of something is good and everything you do to help others is worth it. THANK YOU FOR READING MY LONGEST POST EVER!!!!! |
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