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Post by JMC47 on Dec 2, 2004 19:18:23 GMT -5
write four word posts, I haven't read it all, I got bored. You know nano bots, or nano machines were used in Metal Gear Solid(psx). It was used for energy, and alertness, have you ever played that game, because they explained the definition of Nano almost exactly as you did.
I never said MegaMan had metal bones, I said that his DNA may have been specified to give him stronger bones. And how do we know that data isn't able to read brain waves, we have machines that do that already, called brain prints or something, can't remember. Data just takes it to the next level.
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Dec 2, 2004 19:37:37 GMT -5
Talk about Midnight in Nightmareland...
I'm not going to read all that if we don't slow it down, Mega-posts are for forums that people HAVE to read, but this is crossing a couple of line... actually one important one, the thick line between relaxing and headaches...
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Post by GustaffGlyde on Dec 2, 2004 20:10:05 GMT -5
A brain scan can be used to read certain patterns from the brain, so I guess it would be able to, given time, copy one’s brain construct and rebuild it at a later time. Poor little Data has way too much equipment stuffed inside of him .
As for Metal Gear, I’ve only played a little at my friend’s house. The definition probably isn’t that close.
As for my writing, I apologize that it was rather long winded. Around half of it isn’t even important. I’ve just been sort of on edge as of late. When I’m like that, writing is an easy way to lessen the stress, and because of this I tend to go overboard. Sorry…
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Post by aarond on Dec 2, 2004 20:19:24 GMT -5
Some of us are discussing AI and simulated emotions like we were actually talking about it happening in real life, but since this is just a STORY, they (meaning Inafune and Capcom) can pretty say it's however they want it to be. Meaning, I don't think it's a poor thought to say that MegaMan is a "synthoid," if you will, with near-organs and other such analogous body functions, which explains why he eats, sleeps, and yet also is still an AI and not "human" in the traditional sense. Remember, this is supposed to take place tens of thousands of years after even the original Mega Man storyline, so obviously there's a lot of room for technological development.
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Post by JMC47 on Dec 2, 2004 21:43:36 GMT -5
Just look at the surroundings in the game, that should tell you technological status. The elysium did not seem far enough in development to make emotional processor/hard drive componets.
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Post by SIMSteven on Dec 2, 2004 21:56:55 GMT -5
Yes, Elysium did have emotions within it. It's called "Sera has behavioral limiters." Yuna mentions her absense of a behavioral limiter, and Sera says she can't act against the system.
I mean, just was Sera's total change in personality at the ending movie sequence.
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Post by JMC47 on Dec 3, 2004 17:28:28 GMT -5
I know the elysium had emotions in it, I'm saying based on how the elysium looked, its technology had not reached a state of technology that mechanics have emotions. So I believe that Yuna and Sera are somewhat Human.
Yes, I'm stubborn, its quite fun when 2 stubborn people argue, or more than 2 stubborn people do, it makes for some good "conservation"
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Post by aarond on Dec 3, 2004 19:08:03 GMT -5
Look, it's clear that both Sera and Yuna have emotions: Sera is envious of the Master's affection for Trigger, and Yuna shows compassion when she tries to heal Matilda, sacrificing her own shell to do so.
Now, probably the Reaverbots don't have emotions, just the Anthro Units.
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Post by digg on Dec 10, 2004 16:29:52 GMT -5
I'm afraid I have to disagree with most of the theories put foreward so far. It's a certainty in my mind that MM is not in any way organic in the sense that a living person is - and with nanomachines incorporated into his design, there is no need for him to be. They can simulate every aspect of organic life, including growth and food consumption. I image what happened during the original fight with the Mother unit, his body was damaged in such a way that he actually lost a large portion of his mass; perhaps by having it blown off, vaporized, melted down, what have you. If a nano repair system was involved and it was set to keep his appearance 'human-like', then its only option would to reform the remaining viable mass into a baby - Exactly what he was when he was discovered by Barrel. Now if we can make this leap of logic, it might not be any more difficult to imagine that there might not be enough of the nanomachines available in the remains to simply incorporate a bunch of handy atoms into his body all at once to rebuild him to his original specifications. They might be forced to work slowly to rebuild him over the span of years, giving the appearance of a child 'growing up'. Another option is that he CHOSE to take the form of an infant to keep himself hidden from the Mother units and the Master system, and that he used the extra mass to create Data as an external memory storage unit. I know one thing for sure - The developers intended originally for MM to be obviously mechanical, with a modular body and removable parts, and then changed his appearance because of story reasons. Clearly this change happened midstream during development and it was too late to make alterations in some of the ingame models. Oh well. I always used to think it was something like this...
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Post by aarond on Dec 10, 2004 22:09:05 GMT -5
I don't think I could agree with you more, Digg. Except for I doubt Roll actually "works" on MegaMan, despite the relative coolness of the actual picture itself.
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Post by SIMSteven on Dec 10, 2004 22:19:39 GMT -5
I've seen that picture before. And I also know it is fan art. No fan art can override an official idea. No matter how pretty that picture is, it proves nothing as it came from someone outside of Capcom. You can't use that as a basis for fact, because it came as an idea and was taken to a full blosom. It proves nothing.
MegaMan is still unknown on what he is.
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Post by JMC47 on Dec 10, 2004 23:33:34 GMT -5
Who you are depends on what you think he is. There is no evidence to convince any person to change there mind. The only way to convince 90% of people is with cold hard facts, and there isn't any final answer.
btw, your all wrong ;D.
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Post by digg on Dec 11, 2004 9:41:02 GMT -5
I don't think you noticed that I said I 'used to' think it was something like that.
Stress on past tense there guys. I don't think roll works on MM, and I don't think he has actual removable parts.
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Post by JMC47 on Dec 11, 2004 11:12:43 GMT -5
I'm not good at disputing ideas without actual facts. It is not possible for us to find a single most accurate idea, because there is no template given by Capcom. This is there fault... they have angered me for the 2nd time, not making legends 3, now this...
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Post by Paragon on Dec 11, 2004 12:18:35 GMT -5
Really the only thing we can be absolutely sure of is that MegaMan is a Reaverbot.
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