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Post by Fire Griffin on Feb 1, 2006 13:54:40 GMT -5
Rather than clobber myself over with giant. blocks. of. text, I'll keep mine to the point:
Humans made robots. (Classic Megaman)
Robots grew too intelligent, too much like people. Robots fought against robots. Humans still had hold on society. (X)
Same clashes are going on, only with an energy crisis. Humans are still the masters. (Zero)
Inbetween area: Remaining majority of humans eventually die against a major catastrophe. World is flooded up as a result and remaining humans and robots shot up into space to escape the war continue to "evolve." Earth looks kind of sad and barren so the evolved humans decide to create new humans on the Earth, because their technology has advanced enough.
Random: From the Books of Magic, it mentions once science advances enough, it will be indistiguishable from magic. I strongly agree with this statement, but anyway:
"Magically," these humans alive on Earth are back again.
I would imagine there would be several cycles of these system humans, handled by the advanced robots above. Because of space area, either humanity up there went extinct because of something like lack of genetic divesity of a group small enough to be non-viable for a gene pool or they're still there but only the ones that have isolated themselves from Earth affairs. The Master made it sound like he was a rare fellow, but we're going to need a MML3 to enlighten us on this.
This run of artificial humans advance themselves fast enough to fly from island to island. The current system keeping population tabs is outdated because of the growing group of flying Carbons.
Legends happens.
In other words, MML2 left the bigger picture a larger mess than ever.
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Post by Dashe on Feb 1, 2006 14:24:26 GMT -5
MML2 left the bigger picture a larger mess than ever. ...which brings us yet again as to why MML3 should be produced. Not only would it clear up the loose ends MML2 created, but it would also clean up the entire MM saga to boot.
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Post by Shift on Feb 1, 2006 15:00:37 GMT -5
I was talking to Pitch, and told him of how I would love for Legends to go out with a bang, as in clear things up with not only a sensible and logical story, but a creative and unique one as well. He highly doubts that they'd do that, and I'm beginning to go back on it as well... Considering the fact that not a lot of effort was put into the stories so far, I doubt that Keiji Inafune would do something so abstract as to make something incredibly interesting, that for one to fully understand, one would have to ponder on it for quite some time. He'll most likely go with simplicity, and shorten it a bit.. Oh well, I guess we shouldn't expect too much from them. They're doing their best.... wait, NO THEY AREN'T, THEY MADE WAY TOO MANY BATTLE NETWORKS!
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Post by Aim on Feb 1, 2006 15:04:32 GMT -5
I think the problem is they're making Battle Networks too fast, not that they're making too many. I mean, the Original and X have about 8 with a couple of random collections and extras, right?
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Post by Fire Griffin on Feb 1, 2006 17:02:02 GMT -5
They're just bending to the recent wave of kids, which happen to sadly be in the majority, falling for the Battle Network trap. Personally, I boycotted the series because no money towards it = no money towards more Battle Networks, although I doubt my single effort is really making a dent.
If you happen to like BN, by all means support it. I still don't care for it. All the references to MML in the world is not going to be the equivalent of a third installment.
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Post by pitch on Feb 1, 2006 17:23:15 GMT -5
You say what you want, but if they made a Yuna.EXE I'd WORSHIP Battle Network. Provided of course, she didn't suck. I'd launch an all out assault on Capcom HQ if that were the case.. Yuna's gunna be pushed aside if they ever make a Legends 3. I've been meaning to read this topic for a while, but haven't set aside the time and now the wonderfully long posts have built up, so for now I can't really say anything about my thoughts on the Elder System, simple as they are and partially brought up by asianxpunk as they may be...
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Post by UNIT 0918 on Feb 1, 2006 21:22:23 GMT -5
You say what you want, but if they made a Yuna.EXE I'd WORSHIP Battle Network. Hmm. If(that's IF) Inafune won't create Legends 3, then a good alternative could've been to include Legends characters in the Battle Network games, with them playing a major part in the story. But is Battle Network 6 the last game in the series? If it is, then I guess it won't happen . Adding lots of Legends characters to the Battle Network games could have been used to pay last respects to them(do I sound like they died? Forgive me.).
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Post by Dashe on Feb 1, 2006 21:59:44 GMT -5
Adding Legends characters to the BN games would be blasphemy to them and to the series. Teisel.EXE and Tron.EXE and even Yuna.EXE just wouldn't do the originals justice. Everyone would remember them as BN characters, and not as Legends characters.
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Post by Fire Griffin on Feb 1, 2006 22:22:43 GMT -5
You know, me and a friend once discussed the Bonnes in Battle Network.
I see it as Tron being one of the kids with the PETs (I forgot the term; I told you I boycotted the series), which could either be Bon Bonne.exe or Servbot.exe. We have no idea, but I don't think Tron would be a spectacular fighter on her own and I can't picture her running around with armor and a gun, as cool as that would be (and that I have drawn it).
She needs her giant robots, whether she be riding in them or controlling them and making them smash the other kids' puny puny PETs.
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Post by Shift on Feb 2, 2006 2:16:34 GMT -5
Adding Legends characters to the BN games would be blasphemy to them and to the series. Teisel.EXE and Tron.EXE and even Yuna.EXE just wouldn't do the originals justice. Everyone would remember them as BN characters, and not as Legends characters. Agreed. And as for the Battle Network series itself goes, I meant that they're all so repeatative. They hardly change a thing in them. I mean, the reason as to why they didn't change much in the Classic and X series, was because they were limited to very little at the time. All they really do as far as Battle Network goes is add a few extra goodies. Other than that, same thing over and over. If you like it, don't take it offensively, I'm just saying that it could be a LOT better than what it really is. Tron.exe.. Teisel.exe... No.. Bad *Horrible **Worst idea, ever. I mean, they're great characters because they have great STORIES behind them. Not just because of their designs. I mean, compare Glyde in Legends to Glyde in Battle Network. Completely different. Which is exactly what would happen if they brought Tron, Yuna, or anyone else into that mess.
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Post by Dashe on Feb 2, 2006 15:06:34 GMT -5
Adding Legends characters to the BN games would be blasphemy to them and to the series. Teisel.EXE and Tron.EXE and even Yuna.EXE just wouldn't do the originals justice. Everyone would remember them as BN characters, and not as Legends characters. Agreed. And as for the Battle Network series itself goes, I meant that they're all so repeatative. They hardly change a thing in them. I mean, the reason as to why they didn't change much in the Classic and X series, was because they were limited to very little at the time. All they really do as far as Battle Network goes is add a few extra goodies. Other than that, same thing over and over. If you like it, don't take it offensively, I'm just saying that it could be a LOT better than what it really is. Tron.exe.. Teisel.exe... No.. Bad *Horrible **Worst idea, ever. I mean, they're great characters because they have great STORIES behind them. Not just because of their designs. I mean, compare Glyde in Legends to Glyde in Battle Network. Completely different. Which is exactly what would happen if they brought Tron, Yuna, or anyone else into that mess. You'd get a Yuna complex going on. Every time you'd type "Tron Bonne" onto Google, you'd find the BN Tron. THAT'S really what would happen.
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Post by Aim on Feb 2, 2006 15:14:04 GMT -5
NO FLAMING THE BATTLE NETWORK. We have a topic for that. I'd love to see a Battle Network version of each of the Bonnes. I personally have not disliked ONE SINGLE navi they have made so far. I have disliked quite a few operators though, so I'd prefer that they be very particular if they're going to do that. Anyways, they're scratching around for character references outside the OG series now, so perhaps they will get around to them eventually (they've made characters named Baryl and used a good bit of Juno's design with Duo). Whatever they are, they won't be as good as the originals, so at least people who are already Legends fans won't forget about them. At any rate, if you have to knock the BN series for anything, the navi designs are definitly not the right thing. That's what keeps me there. They did Glyde badly purely because he was never meant to be a bad guy. The Bonnes are ok as good guys, but when did Glyde ever help anyone out, neverless be anybody's 3rd best friend? *Sorry, just realized I'm off topic now*
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Post by Shift on Feb 2, 2006 20:45:34 GMT -5
Hah, well, how's this sound. So long as they make sure that Battle Network is nothing more than a SPIN-OFF, I'll be fine with it. Maybe if they had the operators as pirates or theives, their Navis would fit their persona a bit more, but still. I still see it as a mockery, sorry... I don't know it's just.. eh. But like you said, off-topic, so as far as the elder System goes:
They better clean up a lot of things in Legends 3, and they better not just make it a trilogy. I'd be so damn upset... And I know that the idea of Return to Kattelox has been floating around, and matthew's using it in his new Turn-Based RPG, but do you honestly think that that's a good way to go as far as the ACTUAL Legends 3 goes? I don't know, it seems rather pointless to me. Why return to Kattelox? Such a small island had nothing more than Juno and that big refractor. It's already been explored, and I don't think that it serves much purpose. Maybe having Kattleox as an OPTION of a place to venture of to, yeah, but I think Trigger's become more interested in his past, as well as Roll's, and it would only make sense for them to search for more answers elsewhere. I don't know, maybe it's just me...
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Post by Reaverguy Rises on Feb 8, 2006 17:00:34 GMT -5
I think Kattelox should be a place you travel to, but I also think there should be other islands as well in MML3. All the ones from MML2 and MoTB along with new ones.
I think that the Elder System should be one of the main focuses also. And IF there was a planet before Elysium and Terra, it would be neat to go there. There should also be more boss fights and ruins and weapons. Also 100 hrs. or over of gameplay. That would be awesome!!! I think Kattelox could fit in if it had some ancient artifact that unlock secret, or even a weapon of mass destruction...then again that maybe should be on another island sense Kattelox had Juno.
I'm just not a fan of Battle Network.
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Post by Shift on Feb 8, 2006 17:30:20 GMT -5
Hmm.. I never thought of MoTB maps... Nakkai Desert, Ryship, sounds good.. I think that they should make a few more maps, but instead of replacing the old ones with new ones, they should have them all included in the game. That would be great, being able to revisit Kattelox, Yosyonke, Manda, Nino, Saul Kada (Well, not so much) I never considered the MoTB maps though, nice idea.
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