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Post by satoh on Nov 10, 2015 18:18:51 GMT -5
Played Mighty No. 9 beta for the first time yesterday... was awesome. Too bad there's so much bad press.. Watched a gameplay video for the latest demo with my gf and it was AWESOME. This game is definitely something that I want to own. Ahh it really sucks that the community issues and pr were handled so poorly, because the game itself is really cool. Its not so much bad press as it is people wanting a very specific thing, and it being marketed to those people as the answer to what they asked for, even though it's not. That is, everyone wants something specific, and not the same as what the person to their left wants, and the game tries to satisfy fundamentally opposed groups of players, leaving a large number of them dissatisfied. There is bad PR and some ne'er-do-wells in the community as well, of course. But that's not really the cause of the issue, it just exacerbates it. And occasionally makes a convenient excuse for people to use to claim there isn't really a problem, in denial. The supposed bad press is just a symptom of the fact that many of the people who thought the game was meant for them, were wrong, and happen to be vocally oriented. |
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Post by SketchMan3 on Nov 10, 2015 18:59:38 GMT -5
Yeah, i know it's just a symptom. Just went with that for lack of a better term. The supposed bad press is just a symptom of the fact that many of the people who thought the game was meant for them, were wrong, and happen to be vocally oriented. Do you mind elaborating on this? I've largely ignored Comcept and everything that involves them as much as I could, especially Mighty No. 9 (I just couldn't accept him through my loyalty to Megaman, hehe), so I only have a small idea of what you're talking about. |
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Post by satoh on Nov 10, 2015 22:33:44 GMT -5
I've assumed by bad press you're referring to people saying the game itself is bad.
If you meant 'its not getting much press' that's an entirely different issue, derived from the fact that the game is basically old news now (in that it's already been covered a number of times and people are sick of writing articles, that's just how reporting works).
Bad press as per my original assumption would mean that either the game is genuinely terrible, someone dislikes the idea of the game in general, or someone fully expected a game that would be to their liking (probably via hype) and the game was different from what they wanted.
I only passed the comcept community long enough to recognize that there isn't one problem with M9, but several, each contributing a significant piece to the negativity associated with it.
Some believe that the game will be/is great simply because of the creator, which is wrong and is a bad thing in the long run.
Some believe game will be awful because of how the hype is being managed, which is wrong and is a bad thing in the long run.
Some believe the game is basically a scam to cash in on old fame, which is wrong and is a bad thing in the long run.
Some believe the game is great when it might not actually be, for varying reasons specific to the player, which is wrong and is a bad thing in the long run.
Some believe the game will recapture all of their nostalgia for the Megaman franchise, which is probably wrong, and is the main reason those who are disappointed with the actual game will be disappointed with it.
All of these people constantly argue within the "community" and sometimes verbally assault the game's staff itself directly, which leads us to the "crappy community" problem.
Bad reviews (that is, press) of information about the game will generally be for one of these reasons, however, may not preclude the possibility that the game is actually not very good.
Similarly, factors like these also contribute to why perfectly rational opinions can get you lynched when expressing them about Steam, Steam policies, or Steam's staff on the internet.
And so on for just about anything game related that has more than a small recognizance.
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Post by SketchMan3 on Nov 11, 2015 11:16:29 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing that up, hehe. I agree with all your points.
By bad press i just meant like... the articles discussing everything that's been going wrong with the whole project, basically.
Having played the beta and demo, I really enjoy it a lot. It's a lot of fun and quite challenging. It gives me similar enjoyment as Megaman, but it's not Megaman, which is kinda nice. Maybe I'm wearing Fanboy Goggles of Pleasantly Surprisedness or something, but I'm excited for the full game. There are some things that I think could be improved, though.
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Post by satoh on Nov 11, 2015 19:31:29 GMT -5
I think its likely that the game simply satisfies what you desired it to be in some ways.
Basically you like it for the same reasons many don't.
One of the biggest things in favor of Comcept is that unlike a few other similarly controversial companies and games, they haven't explicitly lied about features. They've been rather upfront about the fact that they're not really sure where they'll be in coming months, though they'd like to do this or that.
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Post by Bowen Aero on Nov 15, 2015 1:06:56 GMT -5
So, Undertale has taken over my life. In fact, my desktop is currently experiencing... An infrisktation.  Somebody call a Determinator. |
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Post by Bean on Nov 15, 2015 4:25:26 GMT -5
Everybody seems to like that Undertale game. What is it about?
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Post by Bowen Aero on Nov 15, 2015 14:26:25 GMT -5
It's a game about determination.
But no, seriously, I can't say too much about it without spewing potential spoilers. "A child falls into a world full of quirky monsters, with the option to FIGHT or SPARE them." is as specific as I can get on the topic. You'll need to get the game to find out more. Or look it up yourself at your own risk.
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Post by Mikéy on Nov 15, 2015 17:10:16 GMT -5
It's sparked in popularity primarily due to the world being expansive, well-written... and unique.
It's a big choice-driven RPG, and the story changes and people perceive you differently based on what you do. Playing the game without killing anyone has proven to be the more difficult route though, that much is certain.
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Post by satoh on Nov 16, 2015 0:03:33 GMT -5
Commemorating my 300th post, I am making a post about it being 300... yay round numbers
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Post by Bean on Nov 16, 2015 11:24:36 GMT -5
That whole pacifist run sounds interesting. Maybe one day, but I think I'm going to probably have it slip through the cracks for now.
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Post by Fatman X. Jones on Nov 23, 2015 16:06:54 GMT -5
After sitting at home on my duff putting in job applications and getting no responses in return, I finally resorted to something I didn't want to do, and asked my therapist if I could get on supportive employment through my current mental health clinic's assistance programs. I'm supposed to receive a call from my former supportive employment supervisor about it in the next few weeks. It may take a while, but it's the best shot I have right now of getting a job.
I'm just so tired of sitting at home. I'm going stir crazy!
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Post by Mikéy on Nov 23, 2015 20:19:06 GMT -5
Yeahhhhh, I made quite a few applications before applying for a Temp Service, and didn't receive any calls from the establishments I applied for until like two months later after I already had a job. Their processes really blow on that.
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Post by Fatman X. Jones on Nov 26, 2015 20:16:14 GMT -5
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody! I'm sitting here enjoying a wine cooler before I walk the dogs one last time tonight and hit the hay. Did every one of my American buddies enjoy their turkey day today?
On that topic, wine coolers are nice.
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Post by Mikéy on Nov 27, 2015 4:01:46 GMT -5
It was just another day for me, with the addition of a heartier-than-usual lunch and dinner. I was hoping to go to Walmart tomorrow for some gift cards... and I hope I won't have to take a pitchfork.
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