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Post by hershel on Nov 9, 2010 9:19:53 GMT -5
Sorry, but considering that this forum is driving themselves insane over the possibility of a character making a cameo (I believe someone said that it would "ruin the series" with absolutely no sense of irony, good lord people), I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that applies to. You're alright, though. I completely agree with that second paragraph. It's actually the point I've been trying to get across.
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Post by in·clover on Nov 9, 2010 10:29:29 GMT -5
Tbph, if he were some red schmo checking out a book at the local library, stupidly mistranslated as Zelo, I'd lmfao. Then I'd promptly forget about it and terrorize people and small animals.
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Post by Pitch on Nov 9, 2010 16:28:59 GMT -5
Again, if we're wrong in calling it a cameo we're wrong in calling it a cameo. If that's the case, then a cameo's not what we're concerned about — we're concerned about something bigger. :15: Something that absolutely could ruin the series. And god forbid someone liking something I don't? Everyone's entitled to his own opinion, however lousy that opinion may be. People can like whatever they want, but if they're going to be influencing the things I like (i.e., Legends 3 fan input), then that's not the same thing. (Not. even. close.)
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Post by hershel on Nov 9, 2010 18:50:46 GMT -5
^And what I've been saying is that nothing bigger than a cameo (if that) is going to happen.
I'm not flipping out over people hating Zero/the X series/whatever. I'm flipping out over you guys worrying about the small possibility of the game's developers thinking "Hey, these people who like to end all their sentences with seven exclamation points seem to like this Zero character a lot. Let's put him in Legends 3 for no reason".
Whenever a new character gets announced for Marvel vs. Capcom 3, I'm always disheartened by the fanbase, forgetting that they've waited a decade for that game, making constant "WHAT THE HELL NO ONE LIKES THAT GUY SCREW YOU CAPCOM" complaints. And I'm really saddened that more-or-less the same thing is happening to the Legends fanbase.
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Post by in·clover on Nov 9, 2010 19:21:22 GMT -5
Well, that's a different kind of case altogether. Legends is not like MvC or BN in that you can just throw in whatever character you want. That's not comparable at all. When people say they want to kill children and drown puppies or whatever, I hardly think they're being as serious as they let on. And while I agree with you %100 on Capcom not being that stupid, I have to agree with everyone else when they say it would ruin the series. Some things cannot be ignored and overlooked, and this would be one of them. Doubt it would happen, but I'd be mighty pissed if it did.
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Post by hershel on Nov 9, 2010 19:32:38 GMT -5
^I was comparing the overall attitude of the fanbase, not the style of the game in question. The arguments about the fan input are really similar to the arguments about MvC3's roster in that both fanbases are finally getting the games they've wanted for a decade, and yet they're so worried about how they're coming along that any actual excitement is hard to spot.
And even if Legends 3 ends up pandering to the wrong fans, it wouldn't ruin the whole series. Last I checked, Legends 1 and 2 (and Misadventures) still existed, and they're still good.
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Post by in·clover on Nov 9, 2010 20:45:24 GMT -5
You realise that complaining about the complaints is not only hypocritical, but it's only going to perpetuate that negative attitude you say you're so tired of, right?
I really wouldn't know anything about fan responses to additional characters Capcom's announced for other games (I rarely read any of that sort of thing even for Legends) but since we've waited so long, I think we have a right to be cautious and to speak up against terrible ideas, however nonthreatening they seem to be to others. Again, I'm not worried about it personally, but I have no right to tell someone else they can't be, and to stfu about it.
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Post by hershel on Nov 9, 2010 21:42:54 GMT -5
You realise that complaining about the complaints is not only hypocritical, but it's only going to perpetuate that negative attitude you say you're so tired of, right? Damn near every post on this forum before Legends 3 was announced was "man, Legends 3 would be so cool." And now that it's actually coming out, it's less "it's going to be so cool" and more "the fan input's going to ruin everything". And yet, I'm the hypocrite. Yeah, OK. Whatever. I'll never understand why fans (especially Capcom fans) have to be so goddamn pessimistic about everything, but I can't say that, otherwise I'm complaining about complaining.
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Post by Dashe on Nov 9, 2010 22:01:24 GMT -5
Calm down, boys. There are enough of us barking down the Zeropushers' throats that I doubt this will even be an issue later down the road. People are starting to learn that even mentioning Zero becoming a character at all in the Devroom is likely to get you lynched on sight.
What I'm concerned about is what's happening over on the Japanese side, since as of now we have no way of knowing where they stand on all the issues.
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Post by Raijin on Nov 9, 2010 22:06:29 GMT -5
You realise that complaining about the complaints is not only hypocritical, but it's only going to perpetuate that negative attitude you say you're so tired of, right? Damn near every post on this forum before Legends 3 was announced was "man, Legends 3 would be so cool." And now that it's actually coming out, it's less "it's going to be so cool" and more "the fan input's going to ruin everything". Have you really been paying much attention to this board before the MML3 announcement? Because there's been Zero-implementation fear even before fan-input was a possibility. It's really not worth arguing over. "Keep Zero out" is just the popular opinion around here.
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Post by Pitch on Nov 9, 2010 23:05:26 GMT -5
Calm down, boys. Capcom Unity forums/etc. By my count there is something on the order of 920 Members of the Devroom group at Capcom Unity. (I can't find a good count, but there's 46 pages of about 20 members a piece) As a point of reference, consider that the Heroine poll had some 5,133 votes from presumably some 5,133 voters. A difference of more than 500%. (nevermind that not all of those ≈920 members are necessarily active) Meanwhile, you're right to be concerned about the Japanese side of things which had 18,030 votes in the Heroine Poll (>3× our side's votes AND Europe's!) and didn't even require any form of registration to vote. (although this is probably subject to change when they get their full-fledged devroom) It's nice that you're pwning n00bs at Capcom Unity's forums, but I think you're putting too much stock into it. It's not as though anybody will have to go through you to send his ideas to Capcom, or to vote on a poll in the end. Unless the boards are used as the outlet for fan-input at that point, but even then... The fans are gonna want what the fans are gonna want. (I don't mean to sound negative, I just think you have an exaggerated perspective)
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Post by Blues on Nov 9, 2010 23:41:04 GMT -5
...It's not as though anybody will have to go through you to send his ideas to Capcom... Yeah. The ideas just have to go through the Legends 3 devteam, right? They seem to be pretty sensible in terms of what they're looking for in submissions, so that might be a bit of relief.
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