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Post by Pitch on Oct 3, 2010 20:05:47 GMT -5
It would be poetic justice if the Bonnes just outright destroyed the Flutter. They could rig it to blow up before MegaMan reclaims it, then BLAM-O. No more Flutter. Serves MegaMan and co. right for blowing up the Gesellschaft. It might be a bit much, though. (sorry if someone said that already; it's been crazy trying to keep up with this thread)
I'm not sure how I feel about Bola and Klaymoor and Glyde getting involved in Legends 3. Weren't they the ones that distracted from battling the Bonnes in Legends 2? I love them, don't get me wrong, but this game's not big enough for three groups of pirates. >__<
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Post by Dashe on Oct 3, 2010 20:16:09 GMT -5
That's why I'd really like to see Bola and Klaymoor reform. They're intriguing, to say the least, but as adversaries they take screentime away from the Bonnes, and it would be pretty awful plot-wise if the Bonnes reformed. We know so little about Bola and Klaymoor that having them switch over wouldn't mess with their characters--IIRC they were really just after the keys, right? With no more keys to collect, they don't have motivation or need to fight Mega Man anymore.
Now that I really think about it Loath would be better off staying behind bars.
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Post by Pitch on Oct 3, 2010 20:19:22 GMT -5
Bola and Klaymoor are supposed to be veteran diggers, eh. That could be pretty cool. Although, I think they would almost have to end up fighting against MegaMan at some point if they were included. Not for treasure, but because it's personal. Also, if they were included in the game, you know everyone would expect to have a battle. >.< Although, I suppose ideally the game would be big enough to contain all the awesomeness that is Bonne and other pirates/diggers/etc. I'll keep dreaming big, I guess. I just don't like the idea of including so many characters that the game can't hold it all. I think of how Sonic went and made that mistake, and they've never really recovered. (My Sonic 4 money has been diverted for Legends 3 now. >.<) Loath seems like more of a boss for the Bonnes to deal with. Maybe if we ever get a Misadventures of Tron Bonne sequel.
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Post by Dashe on Oct 3, 2010 20:30:40 GMT -5
I'm hoping we get one. The whole series should have just been about the Bonnes from the start. "Join up with pirates? AWESOME!"
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Post by Pitch on Oct 3, 2010 20:34:29 GMT -5
ohmigod Miss Dashe I couldn't agree with you more. I so wanted that option in Legends 1, even if it was just a joke option like in Rockman DASH 2 Episode One. Maybe if Legends 3 does well enough we will get a sequel to Misadventures. That might be the only way to contain all the awesomeness of the Bonne family, really. (Although, the first Legends game did so I'd hope Legends 3 can too) Ooh, but if we get another Misadventures, I hope you can control Tron without the Gustaff too. That would be awesome. It was kind of a let down that you had to be walking around in a mech the whole time in Misadventures. Err.. but I suppose I'm going off topic talking about that. :01:
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Post by snowman on Oct 3, 2010 21:06:01 GMT -5
This thread is made of win. :31: Like everyone, I think the Bonnes stealing the Flutter at the game's beginning is perfect. Many battles with the Bonnes have had something to lose if you're not careful (like the battle at City Hall, Teisel using the statue to defend himself...), so fighting the Bonne siblings while trying not to completely wreck your living quarters would fit right in. The irony of them using the very same weapons Mega Man used against them is great (I tremble thinking of how they'd use the shining laser!) Also, with all the stress from trying to get Mega Man back, the Elder System activating in the background, the tension from the love triangle/ square/pentagon, and possible nostalgia of their old days of thievery, they have more than enough justification for doing so. Though personally, as awesome as it is, I can't see it lasting more than 2 stages. Need to keep room in the plot for the other characters, as well as different plans from the Bonnes! Speaking of the other characters, I always wondered what happened to Glyde while the rocket was being built. I think that idea of a frantic battle between the 3 teams is great, as well as perhaps an underlying rivalry between the pirate groups. Bola and Klaymoore are quite unique and developed characters, and showing them, too, would be neat, as would be battling again. Myself, I expect the servbots to do what they always do: act goofy and cute while trying to follow Tron's orders. Maybe one or two could stay loyal to the Caskets, and give hints on the mechas' weaknesses when needed... oh, wait, Data does that. Well, he might be good for a laugh or two. I know Bon will be outfitted with another weapon attachment, possibly one of Mega Man's stolen ones. Alternatively, what if they convinced some remote island that Mega Man's evil, pitted the townsfolk against them, and got financial support to build a super-mecha? And maybe the whole family would team up with you in the final battle and weaken whoever the final boss is in a cool mech. Or they could just be on your side the whole time, and comicly refrain themselves from going back to their old ways. But where would the fun be in that? Dashe, Green and Specific: Your ideas are truly better than canon. I particularly lol'd at Teisel in the Toy Store. @halycon: You know exactly what Teisel would say and when. Have you written any fanfics? You'd get everything right, no doubt! (Whoops, mistook HalyconDays for fab for a little while, due to a shared awesomeness, good relation with Dashe, the avatar, and the fact it's October. )
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Post by Dashe on Oct 3, 2010 21:26:54 GMT -5
What if they convinced some remote island that Mega Man's evil, pitted the townsfolk against them, and got financial support to build a super-mecha? AWESOME. Seriously, we should just take all these amazingly amazing Bonne battle ideas and do something great with them if this isn't quite what Capcom had in mind for fan input. Thank you, thank you, no autographs please! What? fab?! WHERE?!?!?
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Post by Pitch on Oct 3, 2010 21:30:42 GMT -5
Alternatively, what if they convinced some remote island that Mega Man's evil, pitted the townsfolk against them, and got financial support to build a super-mecha? Mmm... Sonic 3 plot tastes good. (well, except it was just Knuckles, but still) Hah. It would be like in Legends 1 when the townspeople thought you were pirates when you crash-landed. Except they'd really believe it this time! Genius, really. I hope we can get these ideas to Capcom somehow. Then again, I'd hope they have some equally awesome and surprising ideas up their respective sleeves. If I don't dream about Legends tonight I will be disappointed. You guys have so many amazing ideas running through my brain right now.. <3
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Post by HalcyonDays on Oct 3, 2010 22:08:46 GMT -5
Well, any of these ideas are possible, I suppose.
As for Green's preferences on having the Flutter destroyed permanently, or giving a majority of the appearance time to the Bonne family...I have to disagree.
Poetic justice? Somehow, I feel that the Bonnes put that sort of punishment on themselves by choosing to live the type of life they lead. That's poetic justice. I mean, maybe if you fail to somehow disable the Flutter/Tiesellchaft in time without permanently damaging it, then perhaps it would be a viable option to see the Flutter destroyed, since it was a failure on the players part. This'll give players who connect with the importance of the Flutter an increased emotional reaction when trying to salvage the Flutter, while disabling all the weaponry that's attached to the hull of the Flutter, and dispatching the Bonnes inside. I think that it's only fair to split up the appearance/screen time between the Bonnes and all the other characters, so it doesn't just feel like the whole game was devoted exclusively to dealing with the Bonnes. Having 3-4 way battles with other groups of cast members from the past games is a great way to keep the feeling fresh.
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Post by Pitch on Oct 3, 2010 22:15:08 GMT -5
Seeing the Flutter destroyed would be mind-blowing, which is why I think it might be cool. You destroyed their ship, so they destroyed yours. And their ship was so much cooler. Hah. I don't want the Flutter destroyed, but I didn't want the Gesellschaft blown up either. :31: Either way, you can't deny it would be one of those “OMG No WAY!” moments. (like when the MegaZord was destroyed) It's treachery, but hey, that's the Bonnes! Wouldn't you so want to get back at the Bonnes for that, too? And of course, you'd end up building a new ship anyway. As for only battling the Bonnes in the game, it really comes down to your preference. Many people preferred that from Legends 1, to the divided screen-time shared by three different groups of antagonists in Legends 2. In Legends 2 you barely spent any time against Glyde, Bola/Klaymoor and the Bonnes individually, versus in Legends 1 you really got to know the Bonnes through many many battles.
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Post by aarond on Oct 3, 2010 22:22:13 GMT -5
It would be poetic justice if the Bonnes just outright destroyed the Flutter. I'm sorry, did someone mention www.fanfiction.net/s/1841954/43/A_Different_Place the Bonnes destroying the Flutter? Anyway, in this game, the Bonnes are MegaMan's support crew as Roll has been kidnapped by the evil badguys and Barrel has been kidnapped by Dantz. Man, I should write this stuff!
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Post by HalcyonDays on Oct 3, 2010 22:22:30 GMT -5
Heh, well seeing the death of the Flutter would probably have almost the same impact on me as the death of Aeris. That would really be a loss...I wonder how Rock and Roll would react? Rock may have a REALLY hard time trying to forgive Tron and Tiesel, no matter how good hearted he is. Roll's reaction, I don't even know. In my opinion, the Bonnes are definitely the most well-fleshed out villains of the series. THAT is the reason why we need to give other characters a chance to be able to shine as well. Finding an equal balance to this is crucial. It would be poetic justice if the Bonnes just outright destroyed the Flutter. I'm sorry, did someone mention www.fanfiction.net/s/1841954/43/A_Different_Place the Bonnes destroying the Flutter? Anyway, in this game, the Bonnes are MegaMan's support crew as Roll has been kidnapped by the evil badguys and Barrel has been kidnapped by Dantz. Man, I should write this stuff! Yeah man! I read a bit of your fanfiction, it's really good stuff for an alternate universe setting! I'm a bit curious as to how your "A Different Time" fic will continue...or 'when' for that matter. Eh, take your time, I suppose.
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Post by General Specific on Oct 3, 2010 22:32:37 GMT -5
From my POV, the missions itself would be time-based, giving you about 10 minutes to either destroy the Tieselschaft, disarm it and kick the Bonnes out of the ship, or focus instead on dealing with Glyde. If you chose the first option, then yeah--terrible thing to do, but it was the easy way out. If you chose the second option, it would be much harder, but then you'd get your ship back. And three, the ship would live, but the Bonnes would keep it--you'd probably steal Glyde's ship instead (or one of his ships--he has quite a bit of money, after all).
We really need some more development of the other villains--Glyde is a really interesting douchebag, and the Bola/Klaymoore duo are absolutely freaking hilarious.
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Post by Dashe on Oct 3, 2010 22:35:24 GMT -5
On the other side of the coin, destroying the Flutter could allow you to seriously customize a brand-new ship, and that would be really, REALLY awesome. Besides, Legends wouldn't be a notch above the other MegaMan franchises if it weren't for those 'OMG no WAY!' moments. Like that time when you blow up the Fokkerwolf and believe you've actually killed the Bonnes. And then when you show up in Warehouse 88 and find out they're actually alright.
Good times, good times.
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Post by HalcyonDays on Oct 3, 2010 22:43:46 GMT -5
Dashe- Yeah it'd be awesome...awesomely expensive. I still think the destruction of the Flutter should be optional, and dependent on whether or not you're able to defeat the Bonnes in time. This way, both sides of the coin are happy. @general Specific- What conditions would be there to pressure you into fighting Glyde rather than re-capturing the Flutter? Are we still going by the idea that we're having a gigantic 3-way fight during the island seige?
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