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Post by Santa Melty on Dec 26, 2005 22:01:24 GMT -5
Hold on now... Corel is a vector program? Blech. If I knew that, I would have bothered learning it... Have the program, but it’s an older version. Furthermore, it has far more buttons than Photoshop. Intimidates me to death to be honest. Still, if Fab can use it to make something like that, it can’t be pure evil.
Pitch, you really should stop being so negative about your art. I’ve seen much worst. I’m sure all you need is a little more practice. o.o
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Post by pitch on Dec 26, 2005 22:04:48 GMT -5
mltmlt22, the last 5 years of my life have been practice.. >_< I kid ya not when I say I won't get better.
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Post by Santa Melty on Dec 26, 2005 22:19:09 GMT -5
Oh, right... Well... what about lessons? Or one of those step-by-step books? I mean, characters are little more then an assortment of properly proportioned polygons. I refuse to believe that the technique involved in correctly fashioning those shapes into a figure is impossible to learn. I’m no good at this motivational speaking thing. You need to help me out here. There must be something you haven't tried yet. ;-;
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Post by pitch on Dec 26, 2005 22:37:36 GMT -5
I actually have tried the whole step-by-step thing. Drawing shapes and stuff as guidelines. But I can't even draw the guidelines right. >_< Some people have it some people don't. I'm the latter. Which's really weird, considering I have next to no trouble spriting. >_<
I haven't fully played with Vectors. That may be simpler. Maybe I'm not good at drawing by hand - maybe I should stick to computer graphics. I dunno.
I think this is off topic >_<
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Post by Car2oon on Dec 27, 2005 23:56:02 GMT -5
The Gesellschaft scene? Haha, everyone comments on the smoothness of my lineart. I use Corel Draw, a vector program. The precision is wonderful. ^_^ Oh, and I didn't draw a Christmas picture, but in case you're wondering, I also use Photoshop 7 for coloring. Ah, Vector.. So assuming you use photoshop and Corel Draw, which one do you recommend more? I've wanted to try out a good vector program for a while now, and wanted to know if corel draw produces any better results than photoshop?
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Post by pitch on Dec 28, 2005 0:09:57 GMT -5
Well, fab uses both, or at least that's how it seems from his tutorial. Draw in Corel Draw, color in Photoshop seems a good route to take. But let him tell you.
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Post by Santa Melty on Dec 28, 2005 1:23:40 GMT -5
Pfft. Of course it’s off topic. But that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it on the side! What are they going to do to—
*hit over the head with a rock*
Aye! Who bought the moderators slingshots!?
If you can sprite well, then you shouldn’t have much problem with drawing. At least, not a problem of the magnitude that you depict. Spriting is just drawing on smaller scale. Perhaps if you used your sprites as guides?
From what I can gather, vector is better then raster. Photoshop is not vector, so if that is what you seek, Corel is the only way to go. o.o
I believe that Photoshop is more powerful when it comes to coloring though... Especially the more recent versions. 7.0 is quite outdated at this point. I don't think it's a question of one or the other, but rather what can be done better in which program.
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Post by pitch on Dec 28, 2005 4:57:44 GMT -5
Spriting is actually quite a bit different from drawing. It's loads different, having control of ever individual pixel, and it's a bit different creating certain effects with only a few pixels than it is on a larger scale with a pencil. I'm not as horrible as I make myself sound, but my drawings don't improve - well they improve, but not much.(like I might be a little better this year than I was last year). But ultimately they're different concepts.
On the subject of Vector and Raster. Raster images are an assortment of pixels, Vectors are actual shapes with stored information and whatnot. Vectors are good for lineart, and flash animation, but don't work well with High-Res images. I don't know about Photoshop, but Paint Shop Pro will let you do basic things with vectors. I'm sure Corel Draw is better though.
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Post by fAB on Dec 28, 2005 11:34:13 GMT -5
I've had that asked before, which is better out of Corel Draw or Photoshop. There really isn't any comparison though. They're both art programs, but they're so different and each one has things it can do much better than the other. As Pitch said though, Corel for line art and Photoshop for coloring. It's a great combination that work quite well for me... Oh, and I recently discovered a way of copying the Corel artwork into Flash, then exporting it as a perfectly smooth, transparent PNG, thus no cutting out once I get into Photoshop, but that's getting beyond the point.
If you use Corel Draw, you'll see instantly that vector is a whole different approach to the creation of computer art. There's a lot you can do with it, and it's a very "free spirited" program in my opinion, as in always easy to grab what you want, change what you want, and create easily. But there are things that vector simply can't do or can't do well, so that's why I eventually went over to using Photoshop for coloring.
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Post by Aim on Dec 29, 2005 15:04:27 GMT -5
Vector art? Necromancy! What is this vector art you speak of? Er... I guess I'm really not all to up to date with any of this. I really don't even have a Photoshop program. I use the Procreate Painter that came with my tablet I got last Christmas. Could I see the Gesselshaft picture? I looked over some of Fab's stuff recently, and it was really good. That little Servbot chef game is funtastic.
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