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Post by UNIT 0918 on Apr 18, 2005 18:26:31 GMT -5
If there is a MegaMan(Original) Anniversary Collection and a soon to come MegaMan X Collection, then maybe there will be a MegaMan Legends Collection! Maybe there will be those demo games from RockMan Dash 2-Episode one(http://www.legends-station.com/mml2/demo1.php). I could never find The Misadventures of Tron Bonne anywhere , but I might finally be able to play it!!!
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Post by feldinaut on Apr 18, 2005 18:31:20 GMT -5
Wishful thinking, but who knows? Maybe Namco x Capcom and a possible Legends 3 could spark enough interest for such a plan to come through... I was about to comment that 3 games would be kind of a measly amount for a collection, but because they're 3-dimensional, I suppose that kind of makes up for it.
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Post by JMC47 on Apr 18, 2005 19:11:29 GMT -5
ARE YOU CRAZY, THAT WOULD RUIN OUR CHANCES FOR LEGENDS 3, UNLESS CAPCOM IS SMART, which I doubt, because there is no legends 3. Let me explain myself MML1,2 and MOTB are nothing compared to todays games, and the only reason we still like them is because we loved them and they grew on us. there are very few games that would like the crappy graphics and slower paced gameplay and lack of features (like charge shots and wall kicks and other stuff). Sure, a few people would be in instant love with it, but anotehr lack luster legends game sale would ruin our hopes, but there is another way. Capcom, could make a good addition, but that would mean a full renovation of Legends, which they won't, and making a whole game of a remake would be wasteful, Keiji Inafune would probably do it, but Capcom would not, so this is a bad idea, Please Capcom, do not do a rerelease, look what happened to Legends PC, it was mangled www.gamespot.com/pc/action/megamanlegends/index.html?q=MegaMan+Legends
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Post by feldinaut on Apr 18, 2005 19:16:01 GMT -5
Well, how about if it was worked similarly to the way The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and the Master Quest were released as a bonus with the purchase of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker*? Buy Legends 3, get those other three games you missed out on because YOU WERE A MEGA MAN SNOB, I HATE YOU 3D HATERS MEGA MAN IS MEANT FOR 2D EH, WELL HOW ABOUT YOUR BELOVED X SERIES??!
...Yeah.
*It's not my intention to drag other games into this topic, but that's the only example I can think of such a thing happening, and indeed, I believe that's the ONLY time such a thing has happened.
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Apr 20, 2005 12:35:13 GMT -5
Hey, I hate 3D Megaman games. Man I couldn't stand Megaman X7 for more than the first round... then my brother went and beat it in a week . But MML is different, it's like reading a novel, or watching a movie. Slow paced? I wouldn't say that, because if you know where you're going then it's one cut scene after the other, adn those are top notch. I loved the game, but for the first hour or so I H A T E D the controls. Same thing with turok, but I never caught on to that, even though a lot of people did. What legends needs is a reformating, and I really think that if they remade Legends 1 and tried to pass it off as a whole new deal then they'd strike gold. As for Legends 3 we're all dreaming, the only way were going to get that is by pure luck, or a lot of cunning. Let's face it the fan base isn't big enough and the game didn't sell. If you ignore that then Capcom will ignore you. Same thing with Sister Princess. Curse you ADV and you're fan service loving, yerk jerking, good for nothing clientel! As for a promo, I think that that would float capcom's boat more than letters, you guys should try to show that MMLE to Capcom when you have it up and running, and I'll consider sending them a professional dojinshi (non-hentai, of course) just for the sake of showing them people are still interested. Anybody out there know a good comic maker?
BTW Feldinaut I see where you're coming from, but I kid you not Megaman 8 sucks way more than any other Megaman game ever did, and that was 2D all the way. Don't let them forget it...
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Post by JMC47 on Apr 20, 2005 12:58:36 GMT -5
I noticed something, for the Playstation and PS2, the highest Rated MegaMan game was Legends 2 (or second highest), on many sites, or very close, with generally high scores, where as Legends 1, got generally average and low scores, did anyone notice that we would have a better chance of getting legends to start selling by a remake of Legends 2. But there would have to be so much added for it to stand up to todays games, such as Halo 2, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, and all those other games, it would be nearly impossible without an already dedicated fan base that is very large, which we aren't large, not even medium.
Feldinaut is correct, if Legends 3 was to come out, it would be a great idea for it to come with the first 3 games, that would be awesome, except it would need to include a director cut version of them all, just so its worth the replay, except for the people here, who would play it either way.
I wouldn't rule out a MegaMan Legends Collection too much come to think of it, if there ever is a BN collection, by all rights they should make a legends collection, even if it wouldn't sell, unless they redone a lot of the gameplay and graphics. But I don't what a Legends Collection, it most likely wouldn't sell, dampening our chances of Legends 3.
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Post by Trigger on Apr 23, 2005 14:30:16 GMT -5
*Points at Rockmans avatar.* Shining Reezaa! XD (For those who don't get that, that's what Mega says, if you've seen the NxC trailor.)
Anyway, I've been thinking about trying to organize something to spark capcoms interest, but it's kind of complicated. If this forum cares to help, I want to get a bunch of Legends fans together to mass-email capcom, showing how much we love the sieries and trying to get them interested. Problem is surifing the net posting all over about this, and deciding a doog date to have as many legends fans as we can find all overt the net mass email capcom requesting a legends 3. It can be like a huge poll or something. Just a thought if anyone likes the idea.
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Post by GustaffGlyde on Apr 23, 2005 14:58:06 GMT -5
We already tried that a good while back… see hereReally, petitions and emails are nice and all, but they aren’t going to get much done in this case. And writing a letter is basically pointless. Unless you can type/write in clear and proper Japanese, Capcom HQ won’t even read it (They might give you a nice little pre-made message, but that’s it). You could email it to Capcom’s US division, but they don’t have much power, and probably wouldn’t care too much either. You’d need a darn good amount of signatures to show them that the game would sell (not 500, not even 50,000, it’d have to be more like around 500,000), not only from the Americas, but from Europe and Japan. Really, Inafune will try, as he has stated, to make a MML3, but right now Capcom has him and the Legends team working on the Battle Network series. MML3 probably won’t come until either X, Zero, and BN lose their profitability, or they finally decide to end the series. (And mass emailing is a bad idea. It’s considered SPAM, and generally not good to try and flood someone’s inbox). Anyways, back on subject, I think releasing MML3 in a compilation of the Legends series isn’t a bad idea. I mean, if they added some extras and made some updates that idea could really boost sales. Four MM games in one package would certainly appeal to the average MM fan. Those who hadn’t played Legends before might buy it because of the deal. Now, releasing a compilation before MML3 would doom us, but the idea is still nice.
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Post by Darfox8 on Apr 23, 2005 22:20:09 GMT -5
I think Megaman Legends Collection wouldn't be a bad idea at all. I think it'll sell just fine with the right amount of good reviews. Wed sites like ign and gamespot are only around because people want to know what they say about games, and if I remember right the Legends games got pretty good reviews.(That guy who reviewed MML PC didn't know what he was talking about. He talk bad about it for the hell of it not given a real reason. Plus, it was a crappy port to begin with.) Plus, don't forget Legends does well in Japan so there's still plenty of chances for a part three.
And if you say that the Legends game have crappy graphics that won't hold up this days, well look a MMAC. Its graphics are even whorse. Oh yeah there's that whose nostalgia thing but everything is reletive. People who grew up with PlayStation will love the see rough 3D model again the same way most people where happy to see blocky 8-bit sprites. Plus I'm pretty sure they could smooth out some textures a bit and improve its proformance(pervent slow downs and what not).
And as far as extra content thats easy. There's production art, intreviews, and as RockMan said they could include that demo that came out in japan. They could also give you one extra control sceme. They could let you control Megaman like a third-person-shooter. The game already controls like one(except that they don't let you aim vertically while running) so they just need to leave R1 and L1 for shooting and jumping and give turning/looking to the right analog stick. It's the best control sceme for a 3D game that lets you shoot alot.
What I mean to say is: don't say "THATS A BAD IDEA" because there's no such thing as a bad idea. It all depends on the execution of that idea. You want proof of that? Just think about anything that's popular and try and sum up it's basic premise in a few short words. See how terrible it could of come out.
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Post by pitch on Apr 23, 2005 22:35:49 GMT -5
Well really the fact of the matter is Legends didn't sell very well - obviously because it's been a good five years since it's seen any love from Capcom. The best bet would be for Capcom to release a game that would appeal more to gamers - not in the crazy sense of all the sex, drugs, and violence, but moreso in the visual appeal(imagine Elysium in stunning beatiful realistic looking graphics; I know graphics aren't the defining characteristic of a game, but ya gotta admit, the game has great imaginative areas, that make absolutely stunning scenes as they are, and being more visually appealing would only make it better). And show where it came from by including the previous games as extras.
While a Legends Collection isn't neccessarily a bad idea per se, a Legends Three featuring unlockable previous Legends games seems like the better bet.
It'll probably never happen like that, but thinking about it, it sounds awesome to me. ;D
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Post by feldinaut on Apr 24, 2005 13:30:18 GMT -5
I honestly think the only reason Legends didn't sell well was because old fans just could not get over the fact that it was in 3D. Some remastering would be interesting (especially of the control scheme ), and in fact, I would like to see a remastered version, but I don't think it's completely necessary. Because of the amount of time it's been since that infamous collective hissy fit of 95% of Mega Man fans as well as the fact that there are SEVERAL X series games out in 3D now (WHICH NO-FREAKING-BODY COMPLAINED ABOUT BECAUSE THE X SERIES CAN DO NO WRONG, APPARENTLY ), I would think most people would FINALLY be able to give the series the chance if such a bonus disc. 3D is not a new thing anymore. It's the standard. But the more I think of it, I think if a Legends sequel were to come out at this point, Capcom had BETTER release something like this, or the game is practically guarenteed to bomb. It takes me some long, hard consideration before deciding to pick up a game in the middle of its series (a continuing series, mind you, not a Final Fantasy type "series" in which the games have no common ties whatsoever). I would venture to guess the majority of gamers would have a similar reaction, ESPECIALLY to a series they've either never heard of or have only heard bad things about. A new Legends game (especially after this long a time period) would raise curiosity about the series... Capcom has to be prepared to respond to that. Legends is not a popular series, though it COULD be and has the makings to be. To release a new game in the series without some kind of rerelease of the old games would not be a revival, but just another death sentence for the series we've seen dead for half a decade.
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Post by Mandinga on May 31, 2005 11:14:31 GMT -5
x in 3d a short hypothesis:
X7 had some free roam areas which caused the game to not do so well, X8 is all 3d but it's all from a 2d perspective, this in turn satisfies both audiences to some extent, oldies keep their 2d ways and now no one can complain about X not being 3d. Personally legends is still the best game I've played. simply because of the freeroam and interaction with people.
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Post by aarond on Jun 2, 2005 8:32:05 GMT -5
From everybody I've talked to, the reason stupid people hate MegaMan Legends was because it didn't have any -Men in it. Like Fire Man, Guts Man, etc. And because MegaMan didn't have a helmet (which he technically did, later, but it looked goofy anyway, so I never used it).
Compared to some of the trash they release now, these games were freakin' ART. I have to force myself to play Command Missions just for the sake of finishing it. Every Battle Network game is basically a tweaked clone of the one before it. We haven't even seen any new Mega Man games since Mega Man & Bass, and that wasn't actually new.
The main problem with the control scheme is that you can't have MegaMan (or Tron) run in any direction---you have to either run straight, run sideways, or turn and run at the same time, which is still a little awkward. A more responsive control scheme would have been nice, but Campcom was known for bad controls in their 3D games back then. The original Resident Evil was just awful to control.
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Post by pitch on Jun 2, 2005 18:20:44 GMT -5
I read here (http://www.megaman-network.com/articles/interviews/interview002.shtml) that when Keiji Inafune gets that chance and free time, there will be a sequel. Kinda old news. He said that like over a year ago and still no word on a Legends 3.
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Post by UNIT 0918 on Jun 3, 2005 17:13:25 GMT -5
I read here (http://www.megaman-network.com/articles/interviews/interview002.shtml) that when Keiji Inafune gets that chance and free time, there will be a sequel.
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