Matilda Caskett

[Traingham]

One thing that always felt really "dark" to me for the Legends series was the introduction of Matilda Caskett and Joe; two important individuals in Roll's life that were split apart by events that took place in the Forbidden island.

Joe somehow got washed up in Yosyonke, (Actually, I'm not entirely sure regarding the details of how he managed to get away from the island.) and Matilda's body was mistakenly possessed by Yuna when she pushed herself too far in trying to revive her. Supposedly that mistake resulted in Yuna's nano cells (?) transferring into Roll's mother and turning her into the ageless woman that we meet in Legends 2, or perhaps the general art direction of the series makes it unclear whether Matilda's body ever aged a day past the time of her death.

I always wondered how that would be handeled in the sequel. Since Megaman, Yuna, and Sera were going to return to Terra at some point that was undoubtedly going to cause complications later, especially since Sera seemed to have transferred herself into Yuna's body.

Were Matilda and Joe ever going to reunite? Was Joe's present situation going to get in the way of that ever happening? Was Matilda even still anything close to a typical Carbon at that point, or had she transcended to become something more with Yuna's cells in her body? (Like, would she outlive Roll and Joe?)

Was there going to be a plot thread dedicated to unraveling that drama? That's dark stuff.

[Dashe]

I'd never thought much about Joe and Matilda ever meeting, or much about what Joe did when he moved away from Yosyonke after (presumably) revealing that he remembered Roll all along, but I've definitely given Matilda some thought, and that thought involves her never mentally aging past her mid-twenties. Every time Yuna's got control over her body, it's all stuff Matilda doesn't remember.

Which also means that Matilda was probably still expecting Roll to be a toddler. I'd figured it'd be hard trying to live with a mom who still thinks she could pass more for a cool older sister who has to catch up to technology, when Roll was probably expecting to just get a normal mom this whole time. They probably didn't even have VCRs when Yuna took over. If you kick that up a notch and have an immortal Matilda (though we know that Mother Units aren't impervious to EVERYTHING), there'd probably be a good chance she'd try and kill herself after having to deal with too many of her descendants outliving her.

Even if she did age and Yuna just happened to be really crafty with hair dye and makeup, it's still a huge kick in the face finding out that you've lost over ten years of your life--the allegedly prime years, at that--and you're not getting them back. Best case scenario, she'd probably wind up on True Life: I Missed My Thirties or whatever Terra has as an equivalent.

I'm guessing Matilda and Joe were both Diggers, right? You kind of have to wonder who did the spotting for them, assuming Gramps was a Digger too.

[Traingham]

Did Yuna ever explain what she'd been doing in Matilda's body during that 14-15yr (How old is Roll again?) period between the Caskett's ill fated dig and Megaman's mistaken release of Sera?

If all she'd been doing up to that point was playing the guardian of the island, what was keeping her from returning to her own body? I'd figure that's more than enough time for a mother unit to figure out a way to reverse things. (It only took Sera a few seconds to get into Yuna's body)

[Kyle]

From what I can recall, I'm pretty sure that Matilda has been 'dead' for years. Even if her body is still existent, Yuna did a complete mental takeover. You can't exactly lock another person's mental functions, personality and memories away for over a decade and just bring 'em back willy-nilly, since this goes waaaay beyond the bounds of simple DID.

[Dashe]

Mar 15, 2014 16:12:23 GMT -5 Kyle said:

From what I can recall, I'm pretty sure that Matilda has been 'dead' for years. Even if her body is still existent, Yuna did a complete mental takeover. You can't exactly lock another person's mental functions, personality and memories away for over a decade and just bring 'em back willy-nilly, since this goes waaaay beyond the bounds of simple DID.

If that's the case, then they sure didn't give Yuna the memo.  

In MML2, following Sera's defeat, Yuna said: 

"So what are we going to do, MegaMan? If we can't
get back to Terra, then I can't give Roll her mother back!"

Regardless of whether or not it's actually physically possible, even with Sera using Yuna's body, Yuna's intent upon their return was to either let Matilda take over again, or try and pretend to be Matilda for as long as Roll and Gramps are willing to go along with it.  Which knowing Roll and Gramps probably wouldn't be very long.  

[Kyle]

Mar 15, 2014 16:37:23 GMT -5 Dashe said:

In MML2, following Sera's defeat, Yuna said: 

"So what are we going to do, MegaMan? If we can't
get back to Terra, then I can't give Roll her mother back!"

Regardless of whether or not it's actually physically possible, even with Sera using Yuna's body, Yuna's intent upon their return was to either let Matilda take over again, or try and pretend to be Matilda for as long as Roll and Gramps are willing to go along with it.  Which knowing Roll and Gramps probably wouldn't be very long.  

That's merely... Yuna's psychopathic side talking. She just wants to leave Matilda's body on the Flutter's deck.

[Servbot42]

Yuna: Major Asshole.

And I never particularly cared about any of this, especially the dad. When he revealed himself to be her father, I was just like, "Oh. That's convenient. A world of tiny islands and you just happen to be here, not all that long after Roll's "mom" resurfaces as well. Barf."

I guess it doesn't help that I never really cared for Roll. In my fiery days of youth I was all about Tron in that eternal battle. I now understand that Tron is kind of a psychopath, but at least she has a pulse compared to bland Roll who sells all your stuff to pay for remodeling.

[Avegodro]

Matilda could be awake willingly helping Yuna since the Mother Lode her and Joe were looking for was in fact one of the worst disasters waiting to happen. 
Besides getting put to 'sleep' for long periods of time and getting woke up isn't anything new. Matilda/Yuna probably deposited Joe on Yosyonke and wiped his memory so he wouldn't come looking for Matilda.

[Kyle]

Mar 18, 2014 18:44:31 GMT -5 Servbot42 said:

 I now understand that Tron is kind of a psychopath, but at least she has a pulse compared to bland Roll who sells all your stuff to pay for remodeling.

And that's why she's my favourite.

Mar 19, 2014 12:33:46 GMT -5 Avegodro said:

Matilda could be awake willingly helping Yuna since the Mother Lode her and Joe were looking for was in fact one of the worst disasters waiting to happen. 

Eh. I've got my doubts about that, Ave. Now, I could understand Matilda sacrificing her body to Yuna for the greater good, but not once has her original personality been hinted towards throughout all of MML2. Not even the sight and sound of Barrel's voice could stir anything.