Sybillian
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Post by Sybillian on Aug 15, 2013 22:25:52 GMT -5
Idea 3: the sub-gate is a black hole and sucks you in, you escape when a white hole blast you out elsewhere. Idea 4: the sub-gate is a fast on fire robot of yourself, you defeat it once, then it gets back up and grows 5 times your size and is now a fast lightning robot of yourself. Idea 7: the sub-Gate is a item you had the very start of the game and at the end of the game becomes giants samurai robot that you fight to see if you are ready to enter his gate. Idea: 8 the Sub-Gate shows up at a time and place once a day, its a old rusty building and the grandfather clock ask you a question, get it wrong, the building and all of it does not show up for other day. get it right opens a book case, the book case is the sub-gate. Idea 10: the Sub-Gate is your nemesis from the very start of the game. I feel that you don't realize that Sub-Gates are only structures, not living things. |
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Post by satoh on Aug 15, 2013 23:38:26 GMT -5
Idea 3: the sub-gate is a black hole and sucks you in, you escape when a white hole blast you out elsewhere. Idea 4: the sub-gate is a fast on fire robot of yourself, you defeat it once, then it gets back up and grows 5 times your size and is now a fast lightning robot of yourself. Idea 7: the sub-Gate is a item you had the very start of the game and at the end of the game becomes giants samurai robot that you fight to see if you are ready to enter his gate. Idea: 8 the Sub-Gate shows up at a time and place once a day, its a old rusty building and the grandfather clock ask you a question, get it wrong, the building and all of it does not show up for other day. get it right opens a book case, the book case is the sub-gate. Idea 10: the Sub-Gate is your nemesis from the very start of the game. I feel that you don't realize that Sub-Gates are only structures, not living things. Lets also remember that...Tuttle.... isn't.... exactly.... purifier first class... I don't think his cane would stand up to this kind of thing. |
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Zaiy
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Post by Zaiy on Aug 16, 2013 22:09:33 GMT -5
I feel that you don't realize that Sub-Gates are only structures, not living things. Lets also remember that...Tuttle.... isn't.... exactly.... purifier first class... I don't think his cane would stand up to this kind of thing. i hope this isnt going to ruffle any feathers...but the whole post's came off as a little trollish, to me. it is very different from traditional subgates though...haha |
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Post by Dashe on Aug 16, 2013 23:18:01 GMT -5
Lets also remember that...Tuttle.... isn't.... exactly.... purifier first class... I don't think his cane would stand up to this kind of thing. i hope this isnt going to ruffle any feathers...but the whole post's came off as a little trollish, to me. it is very different from traditional subgates though...haha I got a kick out of it myself. For some reason I cannot fathom, it reminds me of this story I read once about a boy, too young to read, who insisted on bringing home a book called something like "How to Keep Your Man" at a yard sale. Part of me actually wants to draw them just to see if there were a way to make some of them possible in the first place. |
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Post by satoh on Aug 16, 2013 23:37:44 GMT -5
Well... I hope I haven't been seen as trolling, if that was the implication. I wasn't really trying to. I was simply stating that Tuttle isn't Trigger. Last time I looked I read that the game would be a bit less 'omg powerful enemies everywhere' due to Tuttle's limitations.
I mean maybe that's changed I don't know. Maybe Tuttle is a late blooming superhero in the current plan... but that wasn't what I understood it to be.
I'm really not trying to cause problems or anything.
If perhaps you were referring to the original poster, then ignore everything I just said... in fact, unread it.
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Post by Dashe on Aug 17, 2013 11:45:00 GMT -5
I don't think Zaiy meant you, Satoh.
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Post by satoh on Aug 17, 2013 12:17:22 GMT -5
I don't think Zaiy meant you, Satoh. I'm guessing you ignored my advice to unread those comments. =p But looking back on it it does seem extremely trollish since thus far the only thing that account has done is post that one list of ridiculous stuff. I didn't really read them too carefully to begin with. I wonder actually why anyone would want to troll us of all people. We're pretty niche and its not like we fill the internet with angst melodrama or the same 7 comments about how detergent and generic ninja story are the best shows in the world or something. ..and TLT is even less prominent a target, no offense of course. In the true spirit of invention however, I have come up with some plausible ideas for reaverbots and the like based on those wild comments. I should probably write them down but I'm far too tired. I do have another idea for an entrance... It would look sort of inconspicuous, like a shrine to something, an old one no one pays attention to anymore... but instead of being a shrine, its just a similarly shaped door , that acts as the hatch to the ladder that leads into the ruins. I don't know much about the islands, but if there's one that's traditional asian themed, it would go there. I guess for subgates I like the idea that the entrances would be unobtrusive and likely forgotten or unnoticed. To give that feeling of being truly out of the way. I also like the concept of them being hidden in plain sight, much like the one in the "gallery."(even though I hated the actual layout and theme of that ruin... ice levels and water levels man... what's the deal, why are they always so annoying) Hmm.. a ruin that looks like an ice dungeon from the outside.. but leads instead, deep underground into a geothermal plant, possibly similar in function to the 5 island adventure one... or not... anyway I'm just throwing ideas out because they popped into my head, I'll stop derailing this train now. *gently lowers wheels back onto iron* |
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Post by Dashe on Aug 17, 2013 16:39:28 GMT -5
I figured if I were you I'd probably want an affirmation that it was the other guy in the equation who was trolling. I mean, there is always that chance that he's some twelve-year-old kid who's never heard of the series, too.
Buscan Island - The mining crew tried to excavate this manually a la Teisel and the Marlwolf, leaving Tuttle no means of actually entering it from the gate itself. It's surrounded by scaffolding and abandoned construction equipment and various "Do Not Enter" signs. The whole site should look incredibly hazardous.  Depending on how acrobatic Tuttle turns out, platforming isn't completely out of the question. Maybe he could hitch a ride on the cable with his cane, or hop on a girder or the box or something, or borrow a cherry picker from the workers. Or take a second entrance in, even. Lots of options here. Except, of course, the obvious one. Now that I think of it, that's a pretty lame picture of the actual gate itself. That's probably the part you actually want, right? The edifice could really go on any island now that I think about it. If I were a kid hanging around that place I'd probably get in trouble for climbing that shelf in the back. |
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Post by satoh on Aug 17, 2013 18:51:54 GMT -5
I figured if I were you I'd probably want an affirmation that it was the other guy in the equation who was trolling. I mean, there is always that chance that he's some twelve-year-old kid who's never heard of the series, too.
The Serious Business PartI've got a concept for the Buscan sub-gate. The mining crew tried to excavate it manually a la Teisel and the Marlwolf, leaving Tuttle no means of actually entering it from the gate itself. It's surrounded by scaffolding and abandoned construction equipment and various "Do Not Enter" signs. The whole site should look incredibly hazardous. There's a second means of entry nearby, like a ventilation shaft for the ruins that can be opened using a MacGuffin, or perhaps Tuttle ends up walking in on the miners accidentally making a back entrance themselves. I'm going to come back to this later, refine it, and add some pictures. I like it, it sort of compliments my idea of a service tunnel manhole. Also there should totally be a junk shop named MacGuffin's owned by Mr. MacGuffin. He sells all the one time use junk! But enough metagaming... |
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Post by UserShadow7989 on Aug 19, 2013 2:51:41 GMT -5
I'll second the sentiment of liking the idea of the Buscan subgate being surrounded by/part of an abandoned site. It makes me think of the Old City from Kattelox in Legends 1- a ghost town with trappings of an industrial district, a gray and cloudy sky line and black buildings and tarmac... It wouldn't be the same, of course, but incorporating some of that feet would make for a memorable area that inspires nostalgia regarding the first game of the series, which is always nice.
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Post by Loken on Aug 19, 2013 4:59:27 GMT -5
I'd like to mention that the whole "people dug into a ruin" idea was first stated by UserShadow7989. I think it's pretty cool. Not quite a the "entrance" we are used to but I think it would work just fine.
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Post by Dashe on Aug 19, 2013 11:44:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out alternate ways to get into a ruin myself. It's definitely likely that someone else might've drilled into the ruin by mistake somewhere else, especially in an area where you get a lot of mining going on. The difference between the two is that one's got a cave-in and one's been excavated around. Either way, it's definitely not something I'm aiming to have Tuttle just be able to walk up to normally. Maybe he'd need to ask someone to lend him a cherry picker or take a lift over by going through the mines and coming out through a different tunnel. I really liked Satoh's idea of having Buscan's ruin be a geothermal plant, too. It's got a serious Hailfire Peaks vibe to it.
Dashe Island: I don't think that one'd be complete without a really creepy load of tally marks on the back of the sub-gate. It'd be cool to see the surrounding area getting flooded somewhat and turning into a marsh, since there's that lake nearby and all. Pond, maybe. Having a stark contrast between this friendly, peaceful-looking island village and a really unsettling-looking sub-gate. Technically you could say the same of Malt and Tronne too, but Dashe Island'd be the one to have a sub-gate with a bunch of mysterious tally marks on it. It even comes with a creaky old footbridge leading to the gate that looks suspiciously like that old boat dock from my sig collection. And Spanish Moss everywhere. The whole thing would just be horribly unkempt, with overgrowth all over the place.  (Satoh helped color that one broken log in the foreground. Thanks!) ______ Island:For this one, I put the ruin entrance under a fully operational fountain. Perhaps a fountain that Tuttle passes very often without even thinking about it, shrugging it off as a normal piece of scenery. However, when it comes time to actually explore the ruins for that island, it turns out the fountain is actually part of the sub-gate! Maybe the leader of the town needs to open it manually a la Nino Ruins, or maybe it activates automatically in the presence of a certain MacGuffin. I could see this working out in Malt or Tronne, or even Chizz if the main settlement there is refined enough, since these sub-gates (probably) predate the Carbon settlements on the Quint Islands.
_______ Island:Here's another one that can pretty much go anywhere. Like a giant shrine with an ancient tablet of sorts in the back, surrounded by imposing pointy rocks to intimidate anyone who goes in. The actual entrance is inside the temple. I could see this flush up against a cliffside or just standing in the middle of a clearing. It'd be cool if there were candles or torches immediately inside, too. |
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Zaiy
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Post by Zaiy on Aug 19, 2013 13:13:57 GMT -5
I think itll be funny to have a subgate underwater; so it isnt accessible to tuttle because he cant swim and there to taunt the players/tuttle. lol.
also Satoh...YOU ARE THE TROLL. j.k i thought it would be understood that i meant that one person that spammed like, 100 ideas.
but FaB and Blyka could be super creative and make something out of atleast one of those ideas. not all of em were so ludicrous, although most are.
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Post by Dashe on Aug 19, 2013 13:47:03 GMT -5
On iScribble, Satoh, Loken and I were saying how it'd be exactly the sort of thing Tuttle would do to have a sub-gate as his archnemesis. He'd just sort of stand there at the entrance trying to get it to open by yelling at it and hitting it with his cane, completely unaware that it needs a license.
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Post by satoh on Aug 19, 2013 17:27:01 GMT -5
I think itll be funny to have a subgate underwater; so it isnt accessible to tuttle because he cant swim and there to taunt the players/tuttle. lol. also Satoh...YOU ARE THE TROLL. j.k i thought it would be understood that i meant that one person that spammed like, 100 ideas. but FaB and Blyka could be super creative and make something out of atleast one of those ideas. not all of em were so ludicrous, although most are. true but on an honest note, I was sleep deprived when I read them the first time, and I didn't read them carefully to boot, so I didn't even realize how strange they sounded. They just seemed a bit like something a younger person might say, rather than someone purposely attempting to be inane. And as Dashe just pointed out, some good did come of one of those ideas actually. (I also came up with an idea of a reaverbot that looks a bit like an orangutan, and mimicks your actions, and attacks when you turn your back or sit still for too long... which could come in plenty of flavors... so even the "fast on fire robot of yourself" and "fast lightning robot of yourself" bore fruit. ...lol what a totally inept troll he was! Hahaha!) |
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