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[Zaiy]

Feb 11, 2013 20:31:05 GMT -5 joonjoono said:

i'm now currently learning UVW mapping which is used to arrange the image in oder to
make you guys to do some textures.
i will post the .jpg file of texture which has to be edited: like adding eye, tatto on body.
the .jpg file which i will post is just composed of black and white color. if someone is good at photoshop
of course better than me, they will finish the texture and what i have to do is just wrapping the texture around my 3d model. and character modeling is done !!

Since im a butt and do nothing but criticize here to everyones dismay, its a great model for its shape a proportions but you have the shading wrong (i know its not skinned yet). in the legends universe the Reaverbots are shaded as if light is coming from below them (a reverse butterfly light or a 'scary' light). but like i said your proportions are pretty much spot on so good for you.

[joonjoono]

Thanks for your adivse. I like advises because it definitely improves me.
you mentioned about shading which is related to light in the scene.
unfortunately i dont know anything about it . I just rendered it but i dont want to be good at rendering but modeling and texturing. as 
I belive the rendering will be done by the game engine.
eventhogh, i will learn those terms soon enough.

currently, i'm learning the middle course of modeling tutorials on the internet which are spoken in korean.
after middle course i will focus on "Game modeling" tutorials which is on the same site. it include some tutorials about 
Unwrap UVW and with aligning it into reasonable shape. as it offers photoshop tutorials i try to take that course simultaneously.

Some modification are added in this model. When i first model this, i just used proboolean to make a hole in the head and body.
and it made awful result when i do the unwrap uvw. so i used other methods to make a hole that is very similar to the image.
i think what left is photoshop and as you said shading. here is the pic. some comments are welcomed or give me some reaverbot conept arts 
what you guys interested in. i will do my best modeling them !

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[joonjoono]

Yes, i think this forum has to have 3d modeling thread. it will attract some 3d modeler who are interested in 3d modeling.
the more people the better, i think. 

but making rules for it will be hardest part and I'm not that good at it.
by the way, frongel's legs are i realized most challenging part. but i have some time to devote. i will try out today.

updated in 2013/ 2/ 18
I made Frongel in 3ds max. very low polygon. 
although it doesnt have texture, looks a little bit similar.

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[Zaiy]

Just like Eris tottally digs Sirroco i tottaly am digging the concept of Nodin, even though i am still basing it more on 'my rendition'. i am really diggin where i went with the redesign! sorry if that seems rude, it kinda does to me haha, i totally suck.
sloppy colour work as well i know! lol 
*also i thought it be interesting to go with a more 'brave fencer mushashi-ish hairdo recently, and was like WHAT IF I MADE IT AN 'F" like Sturm 'F'orce. oh man im so creative.... lol
either way i think he is more awesome in a non Teisel way like this, but like i stated before its your bro. haha

Also Joonjoono..that was FAST. also thats looking pretty spot on dude. totally diggin (thats just too much fun to say in a legends environment) it. so cool.

also @tlt Staff,

i think it can be cool if you throw some contests in which we can vote for things we like best! kind of like the Heroine contest and the Reaverbot Resurrection contest instead of these 'creative' contests all the time. maybe thatll get more peeps to join in.
i would have done more this contest but my creativity is kinda shot and im a little discouraged haha.

[joonjoono]

TWO MORE TUTORIAL LEFT FOR THE GAME MODELING TO START. I CAN'T WAIT.

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[Loken]

Feb 18, 2013 1:59:25 GMT -5 Zaiy said:

Hey Zaity I really like your Nodin! If you do more be sure to post it here because I'd like to see more of him. I dare say I like it better than the current design.

[Dashe]

Feb 21, 2013 16:31:21 GMT -5 Loken said:

Feb 18, 2013 1:59:25 GMT -5 Zaiy said:

Hey Zaity I really like your Nodin! If you do more be sure to post it here because I'd like to see more of him. I dare say I like it better than the current design.

Yeah, me too, actually.  I like that this one doesn't look so much like Teisel.  As much as I like Teisel, I get more of a sense that Nodin's his own character this way. 

[Rockman Striker]

Actually I feel the same as Dashe, Nodin's original look is almost exactly as Teisel, which is bad if he doesn't end being Teisel's lost twin or something XP and your render of Nodin's face is better. (Although he looks like Franky from One Piece now XD)

[Zaiy]

HAHAHA ohh boy...i never really watched one piece...so now that i see it...i cant unsee it. FFFF

Teisel and Franky fusion-ha?

the art style of that show is looking crazy; also which helmet do you guys prefer? im thinking of drawing some more of him, its a growing obsession lol.
Sad for that all i know of him is from Tuttle's Little 5-Island Adventure, his description, and this images...lol



Some random sketch 

[fAB]

joonjoono - Cool modeling! I look forward to seeing what you can do as your skills progress!

Woah, cool! The background for the TLT forum matches the site!

Oh wow, that's nifty. Another perk of the Proboards V5 gadgets? Nice one, fAB!

Glad you like! Ought to help those that are just here for TLT feel a little more at home. Actually I could have done this before, customizing particular areas of the forums, it just didn't occur to me to do it before V5.

Zaiy

Just like Eris tottally digs Sirroco i tottaly am digging the concept of Nodin, even though i am still basing it more on 'my rendition'. i am really diggin where i went with the redesign! sorry if that seems rude, it kinda does to me haha, i totally suck.

It's only rude if your intent is to offend, otherwise it's just an honest opinion, right? Your redesign is definitely interesting--and people clearly like it--but it's totally off the mark visually and physically from what I envision his character to be and represent. Actually yours rather reminds me of a different Nodin redesign that someone else already came up with back in the Tuttle's Little 5-Island Adventure days, same deal. In any case, I'm delighted that you're into the character so much!

i think it can be cool if you throw some contests in which we can vote for things we like best!

We definitely intend to make use of polls for certain aspects of the project, they just haven't come up yet.


On the subject of de-Teiselifying Nodin, I did sketch up some potential helmet crests a while back, though I never found time to go back and pursue it further. My thinking with these sketches was that it would be cool if he had fashioned the crest after or perhaps even from the first reaverbot he ever destroyed, giving it a sense of history. I should really make it a priority to get around to reworking his design soon, as so many seem so bothered by it.

[Zaiy]

Oh cool! i like the two designs all the way on the top left that look very ancient greekesk (prob a bias due to being greek myself). haha i like it a lot actually. i didn't know if you guys were just into the hair thang or not TBH lolol.

As always just wanna keep things active, and my life is totally sucking right now...so i dont have much else to do haha.

[Dashe]

Did you ever think about giving him two differently styled eyes (like he only had to replace one of them) and some badass scars to make it look like he's actually an aging brute and expert in the pirating game? The description you provided in the video makes me think he's been in a lot of fights and has a reckless streak, but this guy seems awfully intact. The helmet definitely helps him look a little less like Teisel (though I kind of hope his hair's secretly short under there now). Unfortunately, all any of us have to go from though is the description in the Sturm Force video. He's Valyra's right-hand man, he's a Sturm veteran, he loves adventure and a good challenge, and his partner just died and got replaced with a neophyte (so I'm going with his particular job being dangerous enough that there's a pretty solid risk of dying to it).

[Zaiy]

i tried doing the one eye thing initially with my thang, but it looks way too awkward, and then if its the one closed eye one open eye with the nose that i gave he looked too much like Guildmaster. im actually a little confused with Nodins chest piece...i thought it was originally a mantle but looks more like an armor piece in the most recent image.
My attempt for battle damage was the nose and chin; personally i think the scar thing becomes a little too cliche and overused to make someone look cool, same with white hair lol.

[Dashe]

Steampunk goggles might not be a bad idea, like what Barrett has only more piratical, or some kind of eyepiece that'd separate him from the masses. Like that tech-enhanced eyepatch-shaped lens Vyse from Skies of Arcadia has. Has there been a Legends character with a missing leg yet? There's so much potential to experiment and create a really strong image. Maybe an open discussion followed by a poll would be beneficial, assuming there are enough people following TLT to make a poll worthwhile.

Definitely with you on the white hair, Zaiy, but Nodin's actually old. If he had naturally dark hair he'd probably have gone gray long before now, which is actually why I liked the idea of making him blond. Lighter hair tends to retain its pigment a little longer. Scars though...those are actually expected when you're seeing that much action. It's the placement that'd have you running into the cliche. Everyone here probably has some kind of scar now, actually. Even if it's from doing something stupid like trying to cut through the plastic thingy holding a pair of new socks together with a dull knife. Or chiseling your own thumb open by mistake.

[Zaiy]

Haha I understand he is old and such but I think there are ways to emphasis it more than 'grey' hair. Kind of like Klaymoor (even though he holds his own stereotype altogether). As for missing leg, I think someone did... But can't remember who and it seems a little bizzare in a world of interchangeable parts lol.

Either way in excited to see where very thing is going, and maybe since we are on such a fix over Nodin and Sirroco maybe it'll be nice to see some more fandom of Valyra (sp) even though design wise hers is more polished from the others.