Superficiality (and other thoughts)

[Aim]

I finally completed my MML collection a little while ago when I purchased an $8.00 used copy of MML a week or two ago. Luckily, absolutely nothing is wrong with the game, except that the case is broken and there is a tiny bit of disk lag during the Gesselshaft battle opening cutscene. Anyways, here are some things I noticed playing through the game, and at least one thing I've changed my mind about.

One thing is, a lot of people dislike Roll, often because they think she sort of 'uses' Megaman. I think I know why now. The main root of all of this is found in the most used phrase in all of MML1: "Thank you so much." I can't recall if Roll ever says it personally, but in one way or another, many times directly, so many people throughout the game say this. Mayor Amelia says it; the museum curator says it everytime you bring her anything, the guys who thanks you for rebuilding stuff says it, everyone is all-the-time saying "Thanks" to Megaman. Now, in one way, this makes everyone's feelings seem very artificial. "Let me thank you with this, smooch smooch!" is one of the biggest cases in point. Megaman's sort of everybody's dog; he's doing literally everything for everyone. The police sure don't help. But, on the other hand, I think the total abuse of this phrase makes the game feel far more rewarding than MML2. Everyone always thanks you personally, and quite often you get a real, tangible reward for everything you do. Literally everyone loves you. It makes you feel really appreciated.

Another thing that sort of brings me to is this: MML girls are all-up-own Megaman. Every single female character in the game seems to be interested in Megaman. Roll, Tron, Amelia, the museum curator, thousands of random girls, the Hip Bone shop owner; all of them seem to want a shot at Megaman. I'm definitely making a gag pic about that soon.

Another thing I've changed my mind about is that Cory Sevier(?) really does work better in that voice role than Susan Roman. I mean, Suzy's fine, but there are a bunch of instances where Cory's voice suits him better.

Yet another thing is that I've rediscovered what awesome characters Teisel and Juno are. But also, I feel really ashamed about having any trouble at all playing through the game in my younger age.

Er, I was planning to post this in the MML1 forum, but it seems so general it might need to go in the General topic. Somebody tell me if I need to switch this around. Sorry if these are all too broad topics. I just figured it might be best to get out all of my thoughts in one topic.

[Blues]

Hmm? I never noticed "Thank you so much" before. Still, like you said, it gives you a nice feeling inside, and, it is the polite thing to do when someone does something nice for you.

[Rage]

You wanna why all girls want Mega man...because he's a P.I.M.P and a bad mother trucker. I think Seveir did a good job too. Considering he made Mega man sound like a guy and Roman makes him sound very femaine.

[Pitch]

First of all, Amelia's way old for MegaMan, and I seriously doubt she had any interest in him.. the museum curator too, didn't really show any interest in him that way at all. I don't know what planet you live on.. @_@ As for the others.. I mean, god man, he's like a celebrity on Kattleox. Everybody knows his name. It's like Cheers. ;D But in MML2, he's just an explorer, going from island to island to get the keys. In fact, I think he was pretty much supposed to keep a low profile then, so yeah...

The difference between Roll and all the others is that the others are helpless and innocent civilians. What is the curator going to do if the Bonnes storm the museum? Ward them off with her paint brush? What can the police do against mechs(though honestly, you'd think in such times, such a... typical police force would be obsolete anywhere)? Conventional weaponry is no match for them. What can the Hip Bone lady do if a reaver attacked her in the ruins? Paint it with her lipstick? They owe MegaMan thanks.

Roll, on the other hand, owes him an apology. She's safe at home all these times, but we all know she's more than capable of creating weapons that can and have destroyed even the highest ranking System unit(next to Yuna of course). What does she do? She stares at a frickin monitor, safe at home, while MegaMan is out getting shot at.

"But Roll can't spot for MegaMan, build his weapons, and go with him on missions."

Enter Tron. Not only does she build the Bonne mechs, she pilots a good number of them, and fights alongside her brothers. As for spotting, Roll's done this inside the ruins, as it is(Yosyonke, by the elevator). Roll isn't impaired in any way. She could easily do all this, and more but she doesn't. And add to that not even to give so much as a "Thank You"? You must be kidding.

_{Sidenote! Aim, whatever happened to those other Tron outfits?}

[Blues]

Wait, Pitch, You hate Roll? I never knew...

destroyed even the highest ranking System unit(next to [glow=green,2,300]Yuna[/glow] of course).

...but I did know this!

[Pitch]

It's kinda strange.. while I was here as Quint, I had to take on a less rational stance on the whole TronxTriggerxRoll triangle debate, and after defending my made-up point on that so much I realized what a lazy, whiny, stupid person Roll is, and how unfair it really is for MegaMan to be stuck with her. >_<; I gotta say I almost agree with what Tron says on Manda Island now.

I've always liked Tron better, though, of course.

[Blues]

Eh, I never really cared about ANY of them...

Besides, You can't live without either of them.

Roll makes your weapons, and pilots the airship Flutter .
As we all saw in MML2, Megaman can't pliot it very well...

Tron's the more active villian.( Although not just any mere villian.)
Without her, the game would be less exciting. And, there'd be nothing for us to speculate about if she wasen't there...

Megaman and Roll both need each other for, well, Need.

[Pitch]

MegaMan could team up with Tron though, and be just as well off, if not better. He'd be able to depend on Tron for everything Roll does and then some. Roll is holding him back for sure.

[Blues]

Yes, but Tron might be a little,itsy bitsy spoiled from the luxaries of the Gesellschaft[Gesellschaft], and think, "Boy, what a dump this Flutter is!" Also, I'm not sure how Barrel would take to a pirate being on board the Flutter. Nor would I think Data would take well to it, either. Besides, Tron isn't going to pilot the Flutter; Megaman can't( and wouldn't want to learn how), Barrel's too old, and it's impossible for Data to do it. All the Servbots wouldn't fit into the Flutter, and I'm sure Megaman wouldn't like to live in a Drache .

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Eh, just saying some thougts in my head.

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[Pitch]

I said MegaMan could team up with Tron, not Tron with MegaMan. The idea there being to cut the Caskets out of it completely, though I do suppose there's something to be said about MegaMan owing something to Barrel for taking him in and raising him.

MegaMan could come and live aboard the Gesellshaft, if he hadn't destroyed it. >_<; There would've been more than enough room, I'm sure. I don't really think we're sure at all where the Bonnes live during Legends 2, but they get around between the islands so they must have some means of transporation and a place of lodging.

[Aim]

WHUBBA-THE-HUT? Tron costumes? Did-did I promise such things? Ah, well, I'm working on adorable MML flash buttons right now. I don't have time for such things. But I am planning on finishing early next month.

Now, as for Roll, after playing through MML again, I must further disagree with your criticism. If you can't fight, you can't fight. I just can't imagine Roll using anything to actually hurt anyone. She uses the Parabola Machine on Glyde, yes, but that doesn't physically harm him. And you have to admit that the idea of some dinky girl following you around everywhere, blasting enemies with a nonviolent weapon to cause status effects or something just wouldn't sell.

Besides that, her personality isn't all that Tron's is, but she's more than just whiny. I understand why people think that, and it does seem to be one of her traits, but she's working constantly on the Flutter, Support Car, split second weapons; maybe she's not as hard working as Tron, but she's still a hard worker. She's also got the whole "goody-goody" routine going on, and obviously, Megaman is a hero. Therefore, he can't really change to the life of a pirate. Tron has her "goody-goody" moments as well, but she sure does have an equal balance of negatives. For instance, it's not exactly the most noble thinking to plot to let a digger completely take down the toughest ruins on an island, and then swoop in with your giant warship and blow him out of the sky for a key, right? Although, the blow it out of the sky bit was likely Teasel's idea. Ah well.

Besides all that, after playing through MML1 again... they're both so cute! Tron and Roll! Both so cute! How could you dislike either? ;D

Well, I can see where you can strike Amelia off the list. Megaman kind of hits on her, not the other way around, which actually says something about his character, really. As for the museum curator, she does accent at least one of her "pleases" very suggestivly and seductivly and... er... some other s word. Well, maybe there isn't much there either. But... are they really that much older? I mean, just because Amelia knows Barrel doesn't neccisarily mean she's old. And they both look pretty young, although obviously older than Megaman. Ah well, let's drop all of that. I guess it doesn't really matter anyways.

Ah, it's good to have you back, Pitch.

[Pitch]

_{Early next month as in 'tomorrow's May 1st' early next month or early next month as in 'maybe I'll get to it in June? Also I'm just curious did you get my last email? It was a while ago, but yeah..}

Honestly now. If Roll's a "goody-goody" and so is MegaMan, and MegaMan has no problems whatsoever blasting both pirate and reaver, transitively Roll wouldn't either. It's simple mathematics. If Roll really had a problem with it, she wouldn't send MegaMan off to do it on a daily basis. Also, didn't the parabola weapon send Glyde's ship plummeting to a watery grave? He's not dead to be sure, but saying it didn't physically harm him is an understatement. I seriously doubt that Roll would have any problems pulling the trigger(pun fully intended), if she'd get off her ass and start actually helping. The only reason I can think of to stay in the Flutter/Support Car the whole time is to defend it from any idiot who should come to steal the Caskett's stuff - though if she really is as inviolent as you claim, there'd really be no point in that, would there?

I'm not saying she wouldn't be shaky about doing it at first, but there's a non-lazy person in there somewhere.

She's doing her job, but that's not nearly as hard as Tron's? I thought that was my point..

I'm not sure where the Caskett's would stand if MegaMan left, but as a digger - one bearing at least an A licence by the end of each game - he could really help the Bonnes in a very much legitimate way. And considering the Bonnes don't really want to stay in the pirate game anyway, that would work out pretty well for both of them, don't you think?

Taking MegaMan and Roll down with the Gesellschaft was Teisel's idea, but even at that point, as I'm sure I brought up somewhere else.. it was personal. >_< This was after taking down all sorts of Bonne machines. Who almost dies there, though? That would be the Bonnes. For someone non-violent, Roll sure didn't come up with any ideas on how to save 'em.

How can I dislike Roll? MegaMan Legends 2. Check and mate.

wh.. buh.... th.... When did MegaMan hit on Amelia? ? I mean, ya know, I thought I would be the perverted one here, stretching every little line in whatever way possible to turn it into some sexual inuendo - like there was this one time with Yuna, and... oh god, I just can't >_< -, but I don't remember hearing anything even close to that.. you're out of your mind, man.

[Blues]

I said MegaMan could team up with Tron, not Tron with MegaMan. The idea there being to cut the Caskets out of it completely, though I do suppose there's something to be said about MegaMan owing something to Barrel for taking him in and raising him.

I don't know, I just don't want to see Megaman without the Flutter . It's, like, his trademark or something, and was even featured in Namco X Capcom! Besides, we can't cut the Caskets out! Megaman's still pretty young, and needs guidance. Enter Barrel and Data. Teisel...isn't a very good caretaker. I mean, just look at the things he does! Sure, his heart is in the right place, but he just can't handle raising a family of any kind. The game is more about Megaman, anyway, and not about Tron.

MegaMan could come and live aboard the Gesellshaft, if he hadn't destroyed it. >_<; There would've been more than enough room, I'm sure. I don't really think we're sure at all where the Bonnes live during Legends 2, but they get around between the islands so they must have some means of transporation and a place of lodging.

Really? I just assumed that they were living abroad the many Draches .

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Although, talking about superficiality, that's what Roll's feeling for Megaman seem to be, so I don't think it would work either way.

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[Aim]

You know, Roll's cuteness really does decay a lot from MML1 to MML2. I mean, Tron's "OMG NAKIES" scene in that one was way neater than Roll's redone walk-in thingy. So, yeah- *is check and mated*

But I refuse to be mated by Pitch. It just doesn't sound right.

Yes, I suppose Roll could do more when put in the light of Megaman and the Tronster. They work their butts off. Megaman does every tiny little thing he can for everyone on Kattelox, then digs up every ruin on every island in a pretty large vecinity of the Forbidden Island pretty soon after. Tron builds robots upon robots upon robots, and also, apparently, does a bit of their scheming. I mean, Roll still does her fair share, but considering how much the others are doing, she could probably give more than her 100%.

And you're right again about the point that the Bonnes stand to get a lot out of Megaman's aid, but meh, I just can't see Megaman getting in there with his current personality. It's almost as obscure as thinking about the ludicrous "Pirate Megaman" scene in that one Demo Disk.

Grr. Too compromisy.

But what about my sexual innuendo? No, I simply think it's funny, that they throw in the option for Megaman to say, "No- I just came to see you." It's that little dash there that gets me. Like, you know, he's thinking about how to play it up real smooth and all (since, really, what else does he ever do?), and then let's it loose, catching her completely off guard. She's a respected Kattelox official, and here this boy is, semi-hitting on her? It's just a little awkward, is all. No grounds for a relationship. But then again, it's simply the player's choice for choosing such an answer then, right? Not that there's really anything wrong with that remark... so long as you blind yourself to the smoothness which lies dormant within that dash.

One more for good measure.

[Pitch]

You know, I never chose that option... >_<; I'd all but completely forgotten it was even there.

Tron's un-clothed bit was awesome. Mainly because right before that - like literally right before that - I was wondering if she wore fireproof clothing. Surprise, she doesn't.

Before finishing Legends 2, I never thought Roll and Tron would work together to build anything, or that Barrel and Teisel - and some random, rich, should-be evil guy - would sit and talk all casual about it. I mean sure, MegaMan's not going to agree to be one of Tron's servants(Tron's suggestion, MML1), or get down on his hands and knees and beg Tron to take him(", MML2), but it could work out.

If MegaMan's giving more than 100% and Roll is doing 100%, then Roll is not doing her fair share. Fair is a 50/50 split; a 1:1 deal. She needs MegaMan a helluva lot more than MegaMan needs her. MegaMan could easily find someone else - Tron - to do all Roll does and more. Roll will not likely find a digger as talented as MegaMan - who must be, beyond any reasonable doubt, the most talented digger on Terra.. she's holding him back.

_{...I feel like Darth Sidious, but I really don't think I should make a joke about Trigger going to the Dark Side >_<}

Bottom line, though, I just think Tron is such an incredibly better character than Roll - and Tron's half-evil, so what does that tell ya..

_{btw, I got my copy of MML1 for $2!}