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Post by Car2oon on Jan 5, 2006 16:51:47 GMT -5
Remove post count? I guess Im kind of undicieded on that.. I mean if people start to spam just to get thier post count up, maybe they shouldn't even be here in the first place. And like pitch said, it is fun to look at one's post count every now and then. Plus, you can see when you reach 100 posts or 500 and stuff like that. Kind of like an anniversary of sorts.. or something. But I guess all in all, the post count is really just a commodity.. (As for the post count as currency idea..it sounds fun, but in the end THAT would cause way more spam.. )
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Post by DriftingTrigger on Jan 5, 2006 18:18:30 GMT -5
If people spammed they shouldn't be here? That's NOT gonna stop them from being here. -_- Just saying that will do nothing, they more then likely don't care what you or I or anyone else has to say. At least removing the post count will do something to ward them away.
Me? I've got nothin' really important to say about these things.
I didn't even READ the rules. I just used previous knowledge from the other *cough40cough* forums I go to. XD
To myself, looking at a post count when I get 500, knowing that I was just me, knowing that I'm trying not to be a post whore or anything, is an ccomplishment. Not only for that, but it means that in the 500 posts I've been somewhere, I'm not hated. And that's DEFFINATELY an accomplishment. Sure, I can look at the date I joined as something too.
As for everything else, meh, why not?
As for suggetions, I got nothin' really. I say try to bring abit more originality to the look. Something you might see in personal sites, but not from a mainstream large contender with the big boys. Give it a good, unique look I say. Sure, to a degree it IS already uique, but something alittle deeper.
Meh, maybe I'm just weird....*
*: I know for a fact I am.
But, that suggestion is more for the site then the forums, since Proboards is horribly limited for some things like that. As far as my experience (Only about 3 or 4 forums) knows.
Mini-Mods? Sure. Just don't pick people who are horrible at it. Perhaps people with some experience.
Also, Suggestion #2: Make me admin. *beaten to death*
Aaaaand that's all I can think of really to say.
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Post by fAB on Jan 5, 2006 20:48:34 GMT -5
There's much to consider here for just 4 days in a Legends forum... First off, moving the forums, a change more drastic than any others, has been suggested. I have no doubt that the others are better (I've had a dozen or more people say so), but my personal opinion is that Proboards does well enough. I don't really feel like the functionality here is limited, but maybe I don't know what all we're missing... The main problem I would have with a move though, is that all threads, posts, and accounts would be gone. Sure we want to start fresh, but I'm not going to delete all the content on the main site and rewrite it. Same principle here. So, unless there's a sudden, overwhelming vote in favor of dumping everything and moving, I'd say that's out of the question. Last I looked, people seemed to be viewing the new site style with generally good response, so I'd say the forums will probably be going V4 within the next few days if I can find the time. Pitch, thanks as always for your compliments on the current style, I'll try to make sure the alternative V3 style becomes an option again before long. Post count removal... I'm glad most people seem to be in favor. As mltmlt22 so beautifully stated, "It's not like it's something you work to get... it just accumulates over time." Those unsure/opposed to removing it so far seem to be... Armored FH: As Pitch pointed out, you can always search a member's posts, post counts don't matter as far as that goes. Pitch: No, it isn't entirely necessary, but I think at this point we'd be better off without them, but of course that's my opinion, and why I asked for everyone else's. EricChiz: As Pitch also pointed out (he's always on top of everything before I am), even if we did end up moving, I have no doubt that using post count to buy stuff (as cool as the idea sounds) would only cause a serious SPAM outbreak. Dashe: Undecided you say... Yes indeed, I forgot to mention anything regarding custom titles. As a matter of fact they'd be more special than ever, because the different Reaverbot classes would be gone. I'd certainly like to hear suggestions from everyone on different ways to earn the CTs if we do indeed remove the counts. As for the rules... *shoots those who have confessed to never reading them* XP Other than the unexpected comment that they should be even more thorough (@_@), everyone seems to agree that simplification would be a change for the better. Of course, striking the right balance will have to be given some thought. The Mini-Mods... Can anyone think of anything better to call them? I'm sure I could if I stopped to think, but I haven't yet... Anyway, AimMan, we have actually had some serious SPAM outbreaks in the past, but nothing too bad for awhile now. *knocks on wood* The main idea behind them though, is that nobody should ever be stuck doing too much, and more importantly, several of the current rules can be dumped entirely if we have a bunch of people around who will quietly clean things up. A more relaxed atmosphere for everyone, and if successful, more efficient than ever in a way. OH! EricChiz, thank you for speaking up and reminding me. I had intended on originally saying that, even though I already have some thoughts on who would be right for the job, I would appreciate hearing from anyone who would be interested/willing to do the job of a Mini-Mod. It would help me to know who I have to choose from. Of course, if you "apply," please don't be offended if you're "rejected." Lots of things still up in the air here, but I definitely appreciate all the comments. Rome wasn't built in a day! I have no idea where that quote's from, but it's a good one. Keep the flow of conversation moving!
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Post by pitch on Jan 5, 2006 21:00:59 GMT -5
Post count... not something you work for? Surely you jest! >.< Second Class Purifier Units. *high fives self*
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Post by Dashe on Jan 5, 2006 21:08:56 GMT -5
Maybe we could structure the entire staff like the system! Well, minus the carbon reinitialization stuff...unless you could count the ability to ban as an adequate parallel to carbon reinitialization. I'm not the most well-informed in matters regarding the system though, but it would be a nice touch if the reaverbot titles remain. That way there'd be some sort of connection within the forums' population.
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Post by Dash on Jan 5, 2006 21:09:35 GMT -5
I like that title Pitch xP
As for volunteers, I wouldn't mind being a "Second Class Purifier Unit." It'd sure as heck give me something else to do ^^
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Post by Santa Melty on Jan 5, 2006 21:39:07 GMT -5
Pitch, you read my mind. Except I was thinking more along the lines of simply “Purifier Units”. The main mods could be Mother Units, or something more prestigious. As for ways that people could earn custom titles, the Caption Contest is already going, although it’s nearly ¾ over at this point. That alone will not earn many people, if anyone at all, a custom title. More contests would definitely be a good option. Even better, it could be used as a method to revive the more decrepit edges of the forum. For example, one might get a custom title after participating in a few RP games, or writing enough Drabbles. If that isn’t enough, there are always things like the Quiz Corner or whatever it was called, the one Eric Chiz used to run, and we could begin giving away titles for exemplary participation in the Forum Games section. I know I wouldn’t mind getting thrown a bone for all those lies I thought of way back when. o.o Bottom line is, setting up ways to get custom titles doesn’t seem like a very hard task, since there are already enough activities being run around the forums to work with. If anything, the greatest challenge will probably be keeping track of each contest, although that can be done by each of the respective operators of the contests. Or, one moderator could be hired to preside over all such contests, similar to how Griffin keeps tabs on most of the activities concerning writing. So then, moving forums would definitely mean the deletion of posts and threads? Then I am completely against it. Anything that deletes posts is not worth doing. They are a direct documentation of this forum’s heritage, and such valuable records should in no way be marred. When a post is made here, it stays made. SUCH IS THE WAY OF THE LEGENDS STATION FORUMS. And no, Rome was not built in a day. But the Romans were quite dense. If they didn’t insist on building everything out of stone, by hand, then perhaps they would have been finished in that proverbial day. We are far more organized then those Romans, and we have bigger stadiums. BIGGER STADIUMS, I SAY!!! Rome doesn’t even deserve to be compared to us.
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Post by pitch on Jan 5, 2006 22:46:07 GMT -5
Ah, I suppose the Main Mods could be Beaureacratic Units and the Admin, Mother Units, while the MiniMods be Purifiers, but I kinda thought the 'Second Class' attachment, noted the Mini portion of the MiniMod idea quite well. I never really meant to imply that the whole staff hierarchy should be redefined.. @_@ Oh yeah, I suppose I could apply for one of these positions(whatever they end up being called), but I doubt I'd be accepted.
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Post by DriftingTrigger on Jan 6, 2006 12:58:00 GMT -5
Well, to the Main mods, you can call the Mini-Mods, Mini-Me's. >.>
And *applies to be a Mini-Me, then drowns in a pool of his own blood fromt he bullet wounds*
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Post by Chiz on Jan 6, 2006 14:30:26 GMT -5
This could very well be in my top 10 longest posts on MMLS... ;D There are always things like the Quiz Corner or whatever it was called, the one Eric Chiz used to run, and we could begin giving away titles for exemplary participation in the Forum Games section. Man...people are still talking about the Trivia Corner? Well...I suppose I should reopen it one time or another...lemme get stuff together and we'll see. First off, moving the forums, a change more drastic than any others, has been suggested. I have no doubt that the others are better (I've had a dozen or more people say so), but my personal opinion is that Proboards does well enough. I don't really feel like the functionality here is limited, but maybe I don't know what all we're missing... The main problem I would have with a move though, is that all threads, posts, and accounts would be gone. Sure we want to start fresh, but I'm not going to delete all the content on the main site and rewrite it. Same principle here. So, unless there's a sudden, overwhelming vote in favor of dumping everything and moving, I'd say that's out of the question. Whoa whoa whoa...who said anything about deleting the threads and stuff? I think it was Pitch that I was chatting to on AIM (or it might have been JMC, I seem to have become rather absent-minded as of late)...point is, I thought that during the move, everyone's post count would be carried over (come on, there's really only 30-40 members that'll be doing the move - the rest are just dead, forgotten accounts that should be dumped) and that the MMLS Proboards would be used as an archive until such time as the whole thing could be recorded by volunteers, such as myself, and then uploaded in a junk corner of the site for storage. See, we aren't really losing anything, there's just gonna be a line that anything that pre-dates the move can be found in a dust-accumulating corner of the site. You have 50-100MB to spare, don't you, fab? Post count removal... I'm glad most people seem to be in favor. As mltmlt22 so beautifully stated, "It's not like it's something you work to get... it just accumulates over time." Those unsure/opposed to removing it so far seem to be... Armored FH: As Pitch pointed out, you can always search a member's posts, post counts don't matter as far as that goes. Pitch: No, it isn't entirely necessary, but I think at this point we'd be better off without them, but of course that's my opinion, and why I asked for everyone else's. EricChiz: As Pitch also pointed out (he's always on top of everything before I am), even if we did end up moving, I have no doubt that using post count to buy stuff (as cool as the idea sounds) would only cause a serious SPAM outbreak. Dashe: Undecided you say... Yes indeed, I forgot to mention anything regarding custom titles. As a matter of fact they'd be more special than ever, because the different Reaverbot classes would be gone. I'd certainly like to hear suggestions from everyone on different ways to earn the CTs if we do indeed remove the counts. That's a shame they're going to be dumped. I just think it's one of those things that everyone thinks they can live without, but once it's gone, you realize how much you liked it/loved it/felt it was important. "You never know what you've got until it's gone" as they say. No matter, I suppose we could start a global MMLS point system that any contest you win would chip into your point count...depending on the difficulty of the activity, there would be ratios or exchange rates from game points to MMLS points...so, something like for a winning caption = 1 game point = 10 MMLS points...HM would be .5 game points = 5 MMLS points... At the Trivia Corner, getting points is easier and more frequent so it might be 1 game point = 3 MMLS points. Then those MMLS points could be used to buy stuff like custom titles (100 points?) custom avatars and sigs (25 points?) or other stuff (Create your own board skin named after you - 500 points) I dunno...as long as we have some sort of point system. Points are fun! *cuddles post count before it disappears* Ah well. Congrats Pitch, on being the only one ever on MMLS to crack the thousand mark. Other than the unexpected comment that they should be even more thorough (@_@), everyone seems to agree that simplification would be a change for the better. Of course, striking the right balance will have to be given some thought. I might never be able to match the shock value of some of the other members, but I do have my moments...you were talking about me, right? The Mini-Mods... Can anyone think of anything better to call them? I'm sure I could if I stopped to think, but I haven't yet... Anyway, AimMan, we have actually had some serious SPAM outbreaks in the past, but nothing too bad for awhile now. *knocks on wood* The main idea behind them though, is that nobody should ever be stuck doing too much, and more importantly, several of the current rules can be dumped entirely if we have a bunch of people around who will quietly clean things up. A more relaxed atmosphere for everyone, and if successful, more efficient than ever in a way. OH! EricChiz, thank you for speaking up and reminding me. I had intended on originally saying that, even though I already have some thoughts on who would be right for the job, I would appreciate hearing from anyone who would be interested/willing to do the job of a Mini-Mod. It would help me to know who I have to choose from. Of course, if you "apply," please don't be offended if you're "rejected." Well, uh, glad I could be of service. That mean I'm in or out? And about 'Serious SPAM outbreaks'...yeah, it's a shame that happens, like for example the ti- *is gagged by an aspiring mini-mod* HUGE EDIT! Click Here for my impression on what the v4 forums might look like! (1024x724 image, PNG format, 43kb)
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Post by Aim on Jan 6, 2006 14:37:49 GMT -5
Ok, my bad, I thought you were adding mods because you thought our current ones were not enough to function. That is a good reason though. The mods deserve a day off, yes, and /yet more up-sucking. I'd love to be a mini-mod, I wonder who will get the positions? I have a guess myself, but I'll keep my guesses under wraps. I say we call the moderators "High Max" and the mini-mods "Low Mein." Why not? Or "Sima Yi" and "Zhuge Liang." Or the system unit ideas are good. Yeah, I'm not sure rewards is such a good idea, or at least, you'd have to be careful with it. As I've said before, that's probably what messed up Gaia Online. Still, the zenny for items idea sounds like so much fun...
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Post by Dashe on Jan 6, 2006 17:32:48 GMT -5
If we gave contest points to exchange, I don't think it would encourage SPAMming. I mean, you don't get points unless the judges say you win, so if you post something stupid and pointless, it won't yield any reward. And, like mltmlt22 mentioned, it could revive things that not many people are really participating in (but should be...and don't worry I'm just as guilty as the rest of you.)
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Post by fAB on Jan 6, 2006 20:55:03 GMT -5
No time for commenting on everyone's comments just now. Just popped in to let everyone know, some things may look a bit weird as I work on getting the styles set up. Could be that way for a day or two. *shrugs* Nothing to worry about though, your computer doesn't have a virus or anything. ;P
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Post by pitch on Jan 7, 2006 17:04:23 GMT -5
zOMG!!! It's teh v2 skin!!! wow... I mean, seriously, wow. I'm not sure if the skin itself is off, or if it's really just been too long since v3 launched, but man... brings back... well some memories anyway(I don't think I was here very long before v3 kicked off). lol I remember thinking v3 was such an astronomical change from v2 waaaaaaaay back when, but I forgot how much. @_@ Awesome w00t for Yuna in teh logo!
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Post by Buster Cannon on Jan 7, 2006 17:22:53 GMT -5
I like the new changes. Removing the post count isn't a problem, it kind of helps actually. Guess I won't be using blue anymore...
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