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Post by rockmandash on Aug 10, 2005 11:05:15 GMT -5
You guys must love to spoil the new harry potter book for the rest of us don't you? Well, my hats off to you, now I don't have to buy the book(even though I wanted to).
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Post by Servbot42 on Aug 10, 2005 12:52:09 GMT -5
Don't cry to us about it. You were warned and you chose to ignore it. It's your own fault, really.
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Post by feldinaut on Aug 10, 2005 14:53:36 GMT -5
Yeah really. Not only does the topic have "(SPOILERS)" in the title, the topic opens with this paragraph:
Sorry, but that's totally fair. If you choose to skim and ignore warnings, be prepared to suffer the consequences.
Speaking of spoilers, I had no interest in reading the book anyhow, so I went ahead and read the topic when it was first posted. Honestly, I feel sorry for anyone who didn't get to read and finish the book the day it came out because after this popped up, I came across at least 3 unmarked spoilers for the book the next day.
That's that bad part about popular literature. *shrug* Though I'd imagine any of J.K. Rowling's fans would have a good time reading through the latest book even if they had it spoiled, because even I'll admit she's a fantastic writer.
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Post by Servbot42 on Aug 10, 2005 15:00:27 GMT -5
Yeah. I let my eyes wander a little too far into DD's first post, and I found out that Snape was the Half Blood Prince. It didn't bother me at all. There was alot more to the book than just that.
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Post by Teisel Bonne on Aug 10, 2005 15:13:05 GMT -5
How long did it take you to read?, i read it in 1 & 1/2 days ;d
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Post by Rockman X on Aug 12, 2005 15:46:40 GMT -5
I read it the day it came out. I'm a fast reader.
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Post by aarond on Aug 27, 2005 20:04:13 GMT -5
It took me about five hours to read the entire book. I did basically nothing else that entire time, though.
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Post by Bureaucratic Model 1-3 on Aug 29, 2005 18:59:34 GMT -5
RockmanX did you like the Lord of the Ring Movies? Because if you did you should never, ever post about fantasy again. Shame on you, Rowling? What are you an idiot! She wrote the book, she knows how it ends, and instead of saying, I respectfully didn't like it as much as the others, you say, poo poo to anything I can't stand. And if you didn't like the movies, I still don't trust you. As for the book I'm not a big fan of them, I've read the first one and the last three, and found it very novel and impossibly interesting, though sad on another level. Sad that there are those who will belive anything other than it is entirely huff and fluff... T-the magic, not the story, it's alright to immerse yourself in a story, but it's just bad to think that magic would be the cure to all your problems. Speaking about VI directly, I think its clever and misleading. I think that Dumbledore was begging Snape to kill him because he didn't off hand have the guts. That's why he got so inhumanly angry when Harry called him a coward. It's like in I robot, where the robot killed his friend the good master because he made him promise, it was the only way to save the world from the robot invasion. Ergo, now Harry has had his parents killed, by Big V, his chum, his Godfather, and his friends parents killed because of him, and now Dumbledore is murdered and he's got to be feeling it now. The rage that comes from dark thoughts. It's a pity Rowling had to call the president 'that wretched man' so early in the book, it make you wonder if, when Dumbledore is talking about tyrants she really insulting America. I'm sure some of you are going to say 'not my president' or something, but if you've watched her interveiws on the DVD's even face it. She hates yanks. Let me try to explain the whole revenge. You've all seen the Matrix trilogy right? I have, it was the last rated R movie I watched, and let me just say most people didn't even see it. Like in Mary Poppins where the rich can't see the poor an inch past the tip of their nose, Hollywood has created a clientel of people that are almost as philisophically visionless as they are. The Matrix was a complex set of questions about human character, adaptation, evoution, and worst case scenarios. Most people were to busy watching Neo yank that meter out of the ground and start wacking the jack out of haywire program. The philosophy behind the M wasn't we were all in a computer system, that was an offset theory, the philosophical proposal was that life is choice, and from that we add on, choice is war, wherever there is sufficent chioce there is war. Harry Potter is this. Everything around him is falling to peices, dying, breaking, forgetting, so that when it comes down to it he's going to be full of an insatiable rage that nobody can stop. Unfortunately Rowling doesn't know much about magic. In anycase, I think Dumbledore was asking for it and early in the next book Harry's going to meet Snape and start seriously training under him, maybe with Draco, because now they have an undercurrent inside the 'dark' order that want Voldermort dead, thought he thinks they're his loyal servants. It's gonna be great.
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Post by Rockman X on Sept 7, 2005 16:35:48 GMT -5
I said that it was a theory. And yes, I did like the Lord of the Rings movies as well as the books that inspired them. Don't be so judgmental. I'm entitled to my opinion.
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Post by aarond on Oct 5, 2005 21:18:56 GMT -5
I'm not so sure about the undercurrent of the Dark Order; it would be hard for anyone, even Snape, to hide their ambitions from Voldemort for too long, but that would be interesting.
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Post by Shelldragon on Oct 20, 2005 20:10:48 GMT -5
Could it be possible possible that Dumbledore wasn't begging for his life? Maybe, for some odd reason, he wanted Snape to kill him? Maybe it was some sort of plan that the two worked out? Or....maybe Snape really was evil, and Dumbledore WAS begging for his life. *sigh* And Harry won't be going back to Hogwarts again, either! That isn't right! At least Ron and Hermione will be going with him... Also, I never want to read the word "ejaculated" in a Harry Potter book again! YES! Finally someone has my idea. Most people think Snape is evil, he was a nasty guy but I have a very different thinking. I don't believe Rowling would be so trite as that, I know she has something deeper up her sleeves. Snape is not evil and he did not kill Dumbledoor with malice. Here's my thought. When Snape made the vow with Draco's mother he did not in fact know what he was getting into. He knew he had to play along however so he went with the deal. He did not realize Voldemort had assigned Draco to try to kill Dumbledoor. I always thought Draco was actually an innocent boy. A little rotten brat with an abusive father but certainly not evil. Of course Dumbledoor knows this. He also knows about the pact Serverus had to make and so they go about trying to figure out what the pact actually was. Why else would Snape be pestering Draco about it and asking what the task actually was unless he didn't know? Additionally (I think someone else posted this) Dumbledoor was talking to Snape at one point telling him that he had to go through with the pact he had made. After all Draco's failed attempts the headmaster figured out what the deed was to be. He also knew he was weakened by the vast amounts of poison he just injested. He didn't just call for Severus because he is the potions master. He called for Severus because he knew what was about to take place. Draco was about to be required to kill Dumbledoor and Dumbledoor knowing the boy is not evil did not want him to have to go through such a task as to kill him. Also with all the deatheaters around Dumbledoors final cry to Severus was indeed a cry of pleeding. A pleeding to be the one to end his life thus cutting off the pact between Draco's mother and Snape and furthering the trust Voldemort's team has of Snape. I hope you'll also notice Snape did not kill Harry as he was running away. Harry even attempted forbidden curses which Snape knocked aside. Still, although given the perfect chance. He did not take Harry's life. That's pretty much what I have to say although I have a lot more thoughts on the subject.
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Post by aarond on Nov 1, 2005 22:36:30 GMT -5
I don't know...I think that kind of invalidates the entire undercurrent that Harry is alone now. Before, he always had Dumbledore to protect him, but now, he's on his own. That is meaningless if Dumbledore is still alive.
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