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Post by Shift on Mar 28, 2006 20:30:25 GMT -5
Hahahaha! Nice. I love what Teisel's saying. Hahaha, great job.
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Post by The Dark Chronicler on Mar 30, 2006 8:39:54 GMT -5
Very humerous, I must say I agree with all of Aim's reasons for why Roll deserves him. But I have a small question to put out here: Which one do you think Megaman himself would choose? It's his girlfriend so I was wondering who you thought he would pick.
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Post by Aim on Mar 30, 2006 18:39:32 GMT -5
That is tough, actually. Let me think... who has he shown more love towards?
Honestly, it's a tough choice. On a regular basis, he shows his affections for Roll. Never anything major or definite, but enough to show he cares for her.
On the other hand, he doesn't get to express emotions towards Tron as often, but when she's not rattling off insults at him, he seems to like her. I mean, he's pretty jubilant to discover that she's alive right before the Bruno fight, and shows legitimate concern that she might have been killed in the Fokkerwolf battle. I say he's shown concern towards her instead of the Bonnes in general because, at that time, he really barely knew the other Bonnes.
So really, I'm not sure I can make a decision there. I'm really not certain he could ever make a choice. 0_o
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Post by GSG on Mar 30, 2006 19:05:59 GMT -5
Ha ha! Great gag pic, Aim. MegaMan's expression is priceless. Anyway. Who'd MegaMan pick? In a real-life situation? Roll. No question. I mean, they've lived together for years, so they must know most of each others bad points and annoying traits, yet they're still attracted to one another. But in Legends, being the kind of game that it is, I think it would be far more likely (and satisfying) if Tron and MegaMan did end up together. Not in a realistic situation, though. Sure, MegaMan has been sweet to Tron on a number of occasions, but I'm sure he'd be nice enough to pretty much any girl. Of course, it helps that Tron happens to be a very pretty girl...
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Post by Dashe on Mar 31, 2006 15:54:51 GMT -5
I really do think he likes Tron better, in a more romantic way, especially in the first game, and AimMan pretty much summed it up with that whole Fokkerwolf battle reference. That, and you can't forget how he helped her out when she was clinging to that telephone post for dear life (even though he'd have probably helped out any girl in that way). I think the reason you don't really get to see too much between Tron and Mega Man in MML2 is because there just isn't that much of the Bonnes in that game. In the first game, you can really tell he and Tron make a great couple--Roll merely exists to spot for him and say stupid, redundant things. It isn't until MML2 that you really get any sense of potential for a relationship between Mega Man and Roll, and even that seems a little one-sided to me.
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Post by Pitch on Apr 1, 2006 19:28:45 GMT -5
*props to anyone who gets the title after reading this* I don't really know who I'd say deserves MegaMan more, it's more of a question of who MegaMan deserves, and for all the times he's hurt Tron, I'd say he deserves to be with Roll - annoying as she is. I myself would much more prefer to see the MegaMan+Tron pairing. Kind of like what Miss Dashe says, the potential relationship presented in the first game had a stronger an affect than that brooding Roll's diary entries. The relationship has much more potential, but I don't think MegaMan is so deserving. To counterpoint each of these though.... a) She's known him longer and spent more time with him. That's fairly obvious.I have a friend of the female persuasion who I've known practically all my life. Doesn't mean we belong together. b) There are no real complications to loving Roll (unless you still believe the whole "sister x brother" bit). However, if Megaman were to go over to Tron, there's the fact that Teasel hates Megaman, and Megaman is an inheritly good guy. There's no way he could be a pirate, and therefore, the Bonnes would have to stop pirating. This means setting up a business elsewhere; the real problem there is that, even if he didn't love her, there's no way he can just leave Roll like that. Unless maybe it's like Robotech or something.I really don't think Teisel hates MegaMan at all. It's more a rivalry than anything else. Besides, doesn't he owe MegaMan a dinner, anyway? They can talk things over. Regardless, recalling the intro to Legends 2, the Bonnes wanted to go the straight and narrow anyway, and having MegaMan with them... I'm just saying. It's a lot more possible. c) Tron's never done that much for him. If you think about it, the closest the Bonnes have ever come to helping Megaman is attempting to help him in the fight with Geetz and right before the fight with Juno. On the other hand, even if she requires funding, Roll provides food, keeps up all of the mechanics of the Flutter, designs all of his weapons, probably takes care of Data while Megaman is out (although, judging by how he's strangely always around the ruins, I guess he must be out too), and on top of that, has many more chances to show her affection than Tron does. Most of Tron's emotional moments so far have been out of Megaman's sight.While Roll may've been staring at a monitor guiding you through the ruins, here comes Tron, in real life to save yours, and while Geetz is attacking the ship, Roll's inside crossing her fingers while the Bonnes are firing away at him. The instances may not have been as numerous, but the conditions under which they happened hold more weight, I think. d) Tron would need to buy some major health insurance policy to cover being around Megaman 24/7. Just kidding.Nothing really to counter here, but... MegaMan would have to carry massive amounts of tissues around to cover being around Roll 24/7. >_<
Still. MegaMan deserves Roll. She's miserable on her own, but after numerous instances of battling with Tron, he's sent her home miserable(I'm thinking the CrabBot in Pokte, and the Gustaff in Kimotoma). Plus there's all the physical damage he must've put her through too. Perhaps the relationship would solve this, but for all he's done, MegaMan deserves Roll. But again, if it's a question of who deserves MegaMan more, I'd say Tron. Why she still wants him, I don't know.
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Post by Aim on Apr 2, 2006 11:35:37 GMT -5
Ah, welcome to the board Mr. Quint! A fine argument you present there.
Well, if there are points to be countered, these would be them... those... points.
a) It doesn't mean he has to end up with Roll because they've known each other longer, but we must look at this realisticly. He's never sat down and talked to Tron. In fact, he's probably never seen her face to face for a total of 2 hours in his entire life. Maybe not even an hour total. Unless you believe in love at first sight, that makes things difficult.
b) You may be right about Teasel. I actually only assume he has some sort of head trauma stemming back from the Marlwolf. He took that pretty hard. But then again, like I said, you may be right. He does seem more accomadating towards Megaman in MML2.
c) One thing to take into consideration is that Roll actually has no method of fighting. She does very well just to supply Megaman with transportation, maintenence, and weaponry though. She definitely does a fine share of work, it's just that she can't aid him in battles. A lot of people actually talk about the fact that she constantly spews useless information while digging (do you see a door, Megaman?). Well, I've been thinking recently; isn't it likely that it's really extremely dark that far underground? I'd imagine that a spotter is actually quite neccessary to guide diggers during their digouts, considering there's no method of illumination whatsoever in most ruins.
d) Well, you have to admit that Roll has good reason to be over sentimental. Megaman is almost a brother to her, and he's getting beaten with huge metallic arms, engulfed in flames, shot with enormous lasers, etc. She'd be pretty cruel to not at least appear to be sobbing her eyes out with everything Megaman goes through.
And that's everything I can think of. Those are good points though.
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Post by Dashe on Apr 2, 2006 13:11:45 GMT -5
I do have a counterpoint to part c, AimMan...
You say Roll has no method of fighting, but when Mega Man went into the Main Gate, who followed him down there, completely unarmed, AND saved his butt? Tron and Teisel.
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Post by Pitch on Apr 2, 2006 13:19:41 GMT -5
1) It doesn't mean he has to end up with Roll because they've known each other longer, but we must look at this realisticly. He's never sat down and talked to Tron. In fact, he's probably never seen her face to face for a total of 2 hours in his entire life. Maybe not even an hour total. Unless you believe in love at first sight, that makes things difficult.
Well I'll give you that, he hasn't spent nearly as much - and perhaps not enough, either - time around Tron. I'd say that they know each other well enough though. I don't really know if it's a question of love at first site - though it certainly is with Tron. I'd say, though, that both has seen the good side in the other(Tron when MegaMan saved her from that dog, and MegaMan in the Main Gate when Tron saves him) and while it's not quite as much as with Roll, I think it would be enough.
2) You may be right about Teasel. I actually only assume he has some sort of head trauma stemming back from the Marlwolf. He took that pretty hard. But then again, like I said, you may be right. He does seem more accomadating towards Megaman in MML2.
Yeah, I've kind of figured that it all comes back to the Marlwolf. Or perhaps Kattleox in general, for that matter. I'm sure Teisel was afraid he might die when the Gesselschaft went down. Among other things. MegaMan's put all the Bonnes through quite a lot. Gotta admire their ability to keep on keepin' on.
3) One thing to take into consideration is that Roll actually has no method of fighting. She does very well just to supply Megaman with transportation, maintenence, and weaponry though. She definitely does a fine share of work, it's just that she can't aid him in battles. A lot of people actually talk about the fact that she constantly spews useless information while digging (do you see a door, Megaman?). Well, I've been thinking recently; isn't it likely that it's really extremely dark that far underground? I'd imagine that a spotter is actually quite neccessary to guide diggers during their digouts, considering there's no method of illumination whatsoever in most ruins. I'm not saying she doesn't do her job, just I mean c'mon. I don't know how dark it would be in the ruins, but if that were the case, wouldn't Roll spring to make MegaMan some Night Vision Goggles? I mean, if it is so dark in the ruins and Roll doesn't provide you with a means to see, I'd say she doesn't do her job then. Just a thought. Regardless.. All I know, is that playing MegaMan Legends, I could've gotten by without Roll, but if Tron hadn't shut the trap down, all the Kattleoxians would be dead. I think the only reason Roll was actually needed in Legends 1 was to get you into the Clozer Woods ruins, though I'll admit, free aerial transport between islands in Legends 2 would be a lot easier than swimming.
But I gotta ask ya, she makes ya all these weapons.. would it be that hard to make one for herself to use?
4) Well, you have to admit that Roll has good reason to be over sentimental. Megaman is almost a brother to her, and he's getting beaten with huge metallic arms, engulfed in flames, shot with enormous lasers, etc. She'd be pretty cruel to not at least appear to be sobbing her eyes out with everything Megaman goes through.
See, now, you argue that they should be together then you say they're practically related! Which is one of the very reasons many argue that they can't be together. But I digress... I don't doubt that she has reason to be sad, but.. I dunno, I look at it this way:
-Roll lost her parents, and she mopes about it pretty much throughout Legends 2 -Tron's parents seem to be gone, at least we know the Mother's dead(they mention this in MoTB if my memory serves), but she's moving on with her life. Shoot, I'd say the only time you hear anything about it from any of the Bonnes was in MoTB. -Roll worries about you because you're like her brother and you're out there throwing your life on the line -Tron fights alongside her brother(s). (...honestly now, what is Bon Bonne, anyway?)
Just a few thoughts. I think maybe this one-on-one thing we got goin might be against one of the rules here if I'm remembering right(I skimmed them, I'm sorry!!), so perhaps the rest of this is better suited for PM.. >_<
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Post by Dashe on Apr 2, 2006 13:44:46 GMT -5
No, no, go on. You're actually saying intelligent stuff. That's encouraged here. If other people put in their two cents, just let them, ok?
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Post by The Dark Chronicler on Apr 2, 2006 14:51:31 GMT -5
Finaly, one of you carbons has put up some very fine pionts. And I welcome Quint to the message board.
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Post by Teisel Bonne on Apr 2, 2006 17:34:37 GMT -5
isnt megaman like an adopted child? and wouldnt that make him rolls brother?
if so that would rule out roll, if megaman has any decency
(sorry to anyone thats raised this point before)
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Post by Pitch on Apr 2, 2006 17:46:48 GMT -5
That's a very common argument, there, TIESEL. Many believe that MegaMan's referred to as MegaMan Volnutt, instead of MegaMan Caskett, to show that the relationship between the two is a possibility. It's something that's still for the most part debatable. But it's unnecessary to know, the better of the two is obviously Tron.
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Post by Dashe on Apr 2, 2006 20:02:41 GMT -5
isnt megaman like an adopted child? and wouldnt that make him rolls sister? You do mean brother, right? Personally, if my family had adopted some guy about my age and I'd grown up with him, I wouldn't even think about dating him, even if he was drop-dead gorgeous. That may just be me, but I have a feeling a lot of people think the same way. Then again, people date their relatives-that-aren't-really-relatives in anime all the time, I wouldn't be surprised if they did wind up together. Did anybody notice that Tron looks more like Mega Man than Roll does? (and by the way, I still think Mega Man belongs with Tron, in case you were wondering.)
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Post by The Dark Chronicler on Apr 3, 2006 7:24:34 GMT -5
You all raise very fine pionts, but think a moment, when you are about to go to Eden Roll begins to get very worried about Megaman and tells him that he must come back, or she wouldnt know what to do. That is a sign that Roll loves Megaman and is to shy to tell him.
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