Dark MegaMan question

[questionmark]

I know that you can do stuff to make MegaMan dark, and you can also do stuff to make Roll mad, but is there a connection between dark MegaMan and angry Roll, or are they two separate phenomena (i.e., would it be possible to be dark and Roll not be mad, or have Roll mad and not be dark)?

Also, since I'm sure it exists, can someone show me a list of all the things that make you dark? All I know is that you darken if you kick the pig or throw Johnny off of Ruminoa.

[feldinaut]

I think those things are separated to a degree... I really don't think pinching Roll a lot gets you any darker. But you might if you shoot the Flutter down on Nino island (I THINK that's one...). It's selective that way.

But you can be dark and not have Roll mad at you due to the one cutscene where Data says Roll is taking a nap and MegaMan goes to visit her. You have to be dark to get this cutscene, and Roll says she's concerned about you. She asks if you're going to be good or something, and you can actually choose yes or no. If you choose the no, Roll goes on a rampage and destroys her tools (she SAYS it's an accident...). But if you choose yes, Roll basically forgets you were ever mean to her. Beyond that point (which is fairly early on in the game), I don't think there are any more connections between Roll being angry and MegaMan being dark, though I could be wrong.

And I don't think a definitive list exists for things that make you dark, but this would be a swell place to have them...

[questionmark]

Ah, thanks. I kinda figured that being dark made Roll upset, but I wasn't entirely sure. I don't see why pinching her makes her mad though, I think it's kinda cute.

[pitch]

I also believe she writes something in her Diary about you being dark as well. Something about a dark cloud or something.... wait, lemme find it....

Roll's Diary, taken from the MML2 script

RUMORS:
MegaMan's been acting kind of funny lately. There's like this dark cloud
following him around--he seems meaner than he was before. I wonder what
happened to the MegaMan I used to know--I hope he comes back soon.

Yes, practically pointless, but it wasn't mentioned so

[Hayvel the Great]

You can get dark if you shoot the bunnys at Yosyonke, or if you shoot the guys that are running around during the Nino Island thing.

[kobun40]

Hey what do you have to do to get that cutscene? Besides being dark??? i never even knew that scene exsited..*gets upset cuz his game is broken*

[questionmark]

What I understand (though haven't attempted to verify) is that you can trigger that conversation with Roll by being dark or shooting/grabbing her enough times at the beginning of the game when she goes to that ruin with you. I've never been dark though, because I just don't care that much about getting all the special weapons. I'm not really an exhaustive completist, and I rarely use the special weapons anyway, with the obvious exception of the vacuum arm. Maybe someday I'll be bored and decide I want everything in the game.

[pitch]

questionmark said:

What I understand (though haven't attempted to verify) is that you can trigger that conversation with Roll by being dark or shooting/grabbing her enough times at the beginning of the game when she goes to that ruin with you. I've never been dark though, because I just don't care that much about getting all the special weapons. I'm not really an exhaustive completist, and I rarely use the special weapons anyway, with the obvious exception of the vacuum arm. Maybe someday I'll be bored and decide I want everything in the game.

You should at least try it. Just to see what the Crusher is like. Personally, it's my favorite weapon in the game. Pretty powerful... and phun to watch too.

*heavy breathing* Come to the dark side....

[Santa Melty]

It's not actually a cutscene, more like a simple exchange of dialog. I can only wish it was a cutscene... But anyway, to the best of my knowledge, you just have to become dark. Once you get dark enough, that conversation will become available. I'm not sure how far you have to be in the game to access this if there is some such limitation, but I am fairly sure that's how it works.

You could probably find ways to obtain the dark armor in one of the guides/walkthroughs found here. If not, do a web search. I know I've seen a guide to becoming darker somewhere on the Internet, although I can't remember where.


*sues pitch for impersonating star wars characters*

I have that series copyrighted bub.

[Star General]

poo, i didnt catch that one in all my years of playing this game because ive been light megaman the whole time. How can you even get dark in the begginning of the game, theres no way! i didntknow u could get dark by shooting the bunys

[Aim]

Pinching Roll........I've never tried that. I want to see Roll mad.

Shooting, yes. My friend Ryan and I got a kick out of it. I'm sure somebody mentioned this and I didn't pick up on it, but did anyone bring up kicking and throwing the Servbots running around in front of Pokte Village?

[Star General]

I like to just pick up the bunnies and throw them at roll, or shoot roll with the fire extinguisher...

[bola]

Here's my 2 cents as to what questionmark said....

I know that you can do stuff to make MegaMan dark, and you can also do stuff to make Roll mad, but is there a connection between dark MegaMan and angry Roll, or are they two separate phenomena (i.e., would it be possible to be dark and Roll not be mad, or have Roll mad and not be dark)?

I was nice to Roll throughout most of the game, and after the part about the new tools, I turned dark and she didn't do anything about it!

Apparently, they are phenomena that can be seperate, but also connected depending on which order you perform the events (i.e. be mean and get Roll angry, or be nice to Roll and then go evil).

[deekthepirate]

I accually killed myself by pinching roll. All those smacks really add up after a while.

[Shadow4]

I remember that, I was laughing my head off when I purposely died from that. ^_^