Post by satoh on Apr 3, 2015 1:32:50 GMT -5
This thread will have spoilers, and will pose theories about and around them.
I can't believe I haven't made a thread about this already. Here goes.
The game alludes to a few things about Trigger and the Master in the course of explaining why Sera is opposing our intrepid hero.
The first is sort of implied, but still there if you look: Sera is jealous of Trigger's standing with the Master.
The reason for this is directly stated at some point: Trigger was the Master's favorite.
These both seem pretty similarly related, but the important thing is why. You see, Megaman Trigger was a Purifier First Class, meaning his duty was to enforce the rules of the Master System. Sera's role was to manage the Master System. You would think this meant that the Master should like them both for the same reasons... here's the kicker though: The more Sera tried to adhere to the System, the more she was met with merely a sad look from the Master.
This means Trigger, even being roughly in the same job, was favored.
Why?
Next we move on to the Yuna. Yuna controls Matilda's body, just as if it was some kind of mechanical thing she could interface with.
Again, why?
This one I'll answer now: Carbons, which the Master created to emulate the lives of humans, but without the System's intervention... were made from what we can assume were originally System androids not entirely unlike the Mothers and Servitors, and in the end, Trigger. Not human, but close enough...but still sort of mechanical in a way. The difference being, they now had free will.
Lets look back at the events of X through ZX for a moment...
Just about anytime a reploid (that is, an android of some kind) gained free will, more specifically they exercised their free will to disobey a rule of any kind, they became Maverick. Being a Maverick, we eventually learn, does not mean something is wrong with them, but merely that they chose to do something other than what was intended. In a sense, all of them were Maverick from the beginning, but the term Maverick was only used to label those that didn't conform.
As more direct translations of the games show, the Japanese terms for Maverick Hunter, Purifier, and Abberant all use the same word: Irregular.
This means Trigger was a 'Maverick Hunter' just like X.
His job was to kill those that didn't conform.
As we can guess by his nature and all his predecessors, he probably developed misgivings about whether these 'irregulars' who were simply making choices for themselves, really deserved to die for it.
Now lets look at the Carbon Reinitialization Program...
What was it for? Not simply controlling the size of the population, but also, inevitably, mass removal of units exercising free will.
Their original purpose was likely to build cities and industry, so that the world could be repopulated with authentic 100% humans.
Yuna, whose role was to govern Terra via the System, didn't decide to destroy or protect them specifically.
Given their role of building cities and industry, should could logically conclude that they were fulfilling their role, and that the final say on their fate was up to the Master, since he altered them. We know she was never labeled irregular, so this must mean that she didn't specifically disobey the system in letting them continue. Nor did she ever specifically prevent the system from culling some of them.
We never see her in her original state making decisions, however, we do see that she begins to question and disobey the System after taking over Matilda's body. Because the System had no authority over that directly.
Back to Sera. She tried to make the Master happy by working harder at her role, as she assumed was the reason the Master cared for Trigger. He was after all the best purifier.
Even though they both adhered to their duties diligently, the Master cared for Trigger more. So much so that he entrusted Trigger with his grand final gambit, and his genetic sample.
The Master wanted to protect the Carbons, by destroying the library that contained the DNA of all the other Humans that were stored in Elysium, so that the System could never be used to replace what the Carbons had accomplished.
We can see that the Master cared deeply for those under his care, for his creations, his children in a way. After asking Trigger to take him to them, that he might live and die as one of them, he gives Trigger a small device, which he says will protect him, and sets him to the task of purging the library.
Sera, when ordering Geetz (Jiji) to kill Trigger, states that they will remove the Master's genetic sample from his body if need be. We can assume that this DNA is required to access the library, at least in part; one of the reasons Sera needs it.
However... Trigger was originally defeated by Sera a thousand or more years ago(as I recall, anyway it was in the past), and turned into an infant, most likely a reconstructed body since the original was badly damaged.
Why didn't they recover it then? Well, we learn that Trigger built Data to store his memories and experiences, and we're left to assume that includes the Master's DNA....
But Sera wouldn't know that, since she thinks Trigger's body would have the sample on it in the present; if she knew about Data, she would have obtained it from him then.
This all seems to be a plot hole......
right?
Well, you see, when the battle was over, both of them were supposedly reinitialized before being put into stasis... Sera was always in her current form, but Trigger became an infant...
More plot holes!
Egads!
But you see, if you take everything I've discussed into account, it actually ties up with a nice little bow. Or y'know some kind of badass slipknot with flames and spikes, if that's your thing.
We know that the Master was lonely... we know he created Carbons as a sort of terrarium of humans, not stuffy tru hoomins, but people with thoughts and feelings... people that toiled and died... people with a value on life that his fellows had not, due to their Elysian lives (deceased though they may now be).
Moreover, he made semihuman android beings that were more than simply machines.
He made a lot of them. He made them out of prototypes intended for another purpose.
The device he gave Trigger is never stated directly to be his genetic sample.
The device could very likely just be a tracking scrambler, or something to protect him from the System shutting him out remotely.
After all, he made it to Terra, which can't have been authorized by the System in place to keep him safe and sound on Elysium.
He made Trigger from himself.
The lonely old man built a son out of what he had available.
He made Trigger partly of himself, his first endeavor to create a companion and progeny...and an elder brother to protect his later creations, probably less directly of himself, due to the distance.
Sera plans to retreive Trigger's DNA from his body; The Master's DNA.
Sera, a single minded android in service of a system that perpetuated loathsome discrimination, could never have a chance to stand against the Master's very own son, who was beginning to see the flaws in that system.
That's my Master Theory, so to speak.
What are your thoughts?
I can't believe I haven't made a thread about this already. Here goes.
The game alludes to a few things about Trigger and the Master in the course of explaining why Sera is opposing our intrepid hero.
The first is sort of implied, but still there if you look: Sera is jealous of Trigger's standing with the Master.
The reason for this is directly stated at some point: Trigger was the Master's favorite.
These both seem pretty similarly related, but the important thing is why. You see, Megaman Trigger was a Purifier First Class, meaning his duty was to enforce the rules of the Master System. Sera's role was to manage the Master System. You would think this meant that the Master should like them both for the same reasons... here's the kicker though: The more Sera tried to adhere to the System, the more she was met with merely a sad look from the Master.
This means Trigger, even being roughly in the same job, was favored.
Why?
Next we move on to the Yuna. Yuna controls Matilda's body, just as if it was some kind of mechanical thing she could interface with.
Again, why?
This one I'll answer now: Carbons, which the Master created to emulate the lives of humans, but without the System's intervention... were made from what we can assume were originally System androids not entirely unlike the Mothers and Servitors, and in the end, Trigger. Not human, but close enough...but still sort of mechanical in a way. The difference being, they now had free will.
Lets look back at the events of X through ZX for a moment...
Just about anytime a reploid (that is, an android of some kind) gained free will, more specifically they exercised their free will to disobey a rule of any kind, they became Maverick. Being a Maverick, we eventually learn, does not mean something is wrong with them, but merely that they chose to do something other than what was intended. In a sense, all of them were Maverick from the beginning, but the term Maverick was only used to label those that didn't conform.
As more direct translations of the games show, the Japanese terms for Maverick Hunter, Purifier, and Abberant all use the same word: Irregular.
This means Trigger was a 'Maverick Hunter' just like X.
His job was to kill those that didn't conform.
As we can guess by his nature and all his predecessors, he probably developed misgivings about whether these 'irregulars' who were simply making choices for themselves, really deserved to die for it.
Now lets look at the Carbon Reinitialization Program...
What was it for? Not simply controlling the size of the population, but also, inevitably, mass removal of units exercising free will.
Their original purpose was likely to build cities and industry, so that the world could be repopulated with authentic 100% humans.
Yuna, whose role was to govern Terra via the System, didn't decide to destroy or protect them specifically.
Given their role of building cities and industry, should could logically conclude that they were fulfilling their role, and that the final say on their fate was up to the Master, since he altered them. We know she was never labeled irregular, so this must mean that she didn't specifically disobey the system in letting them continue. Nor did she ever specifically prevent the system from culling some of them.
We never see her in her original state making decisions, however, we do see that she begins to question and disobey the System after taking over Matilda's body. Because the System had no authority over that directly.
Back to Sera. She tried to make the Master happy by working harder at her role, as she assumed was the reason the Master cared for Trigger. He was after all the best purifier.
Even though they both adhered to their duties diligently, the Master cared for Trigger more. So much so that he entrusted Trigger with his grand final gambit, and his genetic sample.
The Master wanted to protect the Carbons, by destroying the library that contained the DNA of all the other Humans that were stored in Elysium, so that the System could never be used to replace what the Carbons had accomplished.
We can see that the Master cared deeply for those under his care, for his creations, his children in a way. After asking Trigger to take him to them, that he might live and die as one of them, he gives Trigger a small device, which he says will protect him, and sets him to the task of purging the library.
Sera, when ordering Geetz (Jiji) to kill Trigger, states that they will remove the Master's genetic sample from his body if need be. We can assume that this DNA is required to access the library, at least in part; one of the reasons Sera needs it.
However... Trigger was originally defeated by Sera a thousand or more years ago(as I recall, anyway it was in the past), and turned into an infant, most likely a reconstructed body since the original was badly damaged.
Why didn't they recover it then? Well, we learn that Trigger built Data to store his memories and experiences, and we're left to assume that includes the Master's DNA....
But Sera wouldn't know that, since she thinks Trigger's body would have the sample on it in the present; if she knew about Data, she would have obtained it from him then.
This all seems to be a plot hole......
right?
Well, you see, when the battle was over, both of them were supposedly reinitialized before being put into stasis... Sera was always in her current form, but Trigger became an infant...
More plot holes!
Egads!
But you see, if you take everything I've discussed into account, it actually ties up with a nice little bow. Or y'know some kind of badass slipknot with flames and spikes, if that's your thing.
We know that the Master was lonely... we know he created Carbons as a sort of terrarium of humans, not stuffy tru hoomins, but people with thoughts and feelings... people that toiled and died... people with a value on life that his fellows had not, due to their Elysian lives (deceased though they may now be).
Moreover, he made semihuman android beings that were more than simply machines.
He made a lot of them. He made them out of prototypes intended for another purpose.
The device he gave Trigger is never stated directly to be his genetic sample.
The device could very likely just be a tracking scrambler, or something to protect him from the System shutting him out remotely.
After all, he made it to Terra, which can't have been authorized by the System in place to keep him safe and sound on Elysium.
He made Trigger from himself.
The lonely old man built a son out of what he had available.
He made Trigger partly of himself, his first endeavor to create a companion and progeny...and an elder brother to protect his later creations, probably less directly of himself, due to the distance.
Sera plans to retreive Trigger's DNA from his body; The Master's DNA.
Sera, a single minded android in service of a system that perpetuated loathsome discrimination, could never have a chance to stand against the Master's very own son, who was beginning to see the flaws in that system.
That's my Master Theory, so to speak.
What are your thoughts?
