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Post by Dashe on Apr 9, 2016 13:05:29 GMT -5
"Awesome feedback, fAB! Especially because it's reaaaaally easy to apply to future writing," Dashe defenestrated. Somewhere in the depths of the internet, a slum filled with dying Neopets who could never quite kick the bucket no matter how hard they tried branched into a happier alternate reality for no reason, and it was just a dream to make their miserable existences seem worse once it ended. Jokes aside, I really wish you'd written down where the four errors were. It has something like 120k words in it, not counting the alt text. I haven't counted in a while. ...Blerg, now you're making me wish I'd had Teisel ask Tron permission to write in the book, too! Wait, what am I saying? This fic already has optional character scenes. Which is the main reason I haven't submitted it to be published on the main site yet. I have to figure out how to fit them in that doesn't involve a random popup once you scroll to a certain point on the page and also keeps the alt text intact. Then again, Teisel's window of opportunity for that is pretty narrow since they never met Mega Man in that alternate reality. The thought of writing a book at all just didn't cross her mind. "Book? What are you talking about, Teisel? I'm too busy to write a book!" Also, unless you changed QCTV's call number on me, I'm pretty sure this fic is where it first showed up. Connecting everything was fun and seemed like an obvious move. I'm surprised more things don't do that, because it really adds to the believability of a setting. I think it adds even more than spending a bunch of MS Word real estate on worldbuilding, but that might just be me. We all have our pet peeves. As far as Aero is concerned, someone who knows me very well, like Mr. Ninja, could probably argue that every character but Tron has a bit of me in them. Your mileage will vary depending on the context in which you know me, and in general it's definitely an occupational hazard with writing. Especially if you actually know why this story exists, but Loken said he'd write an analytical essay on it and I don't want to give him too much information to work with. I would definitely not object to getting the most free Teisel hugs out of the entire cast though. I think Aero gets the most. I never actually counted, but I'd like to think she gets the most because they make everything better as long as nobody is sweaty or gross or covered in any substance that smells bad or could stain your clothes. Anyway, I'm glad I was able to hold your attention for this long! The fact that we don't really have much in terms of Legends content to work with probably helped a lot with that. Or even Red Ash content. I'd take some of that, too. #desperate
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Post by Homunculus on Jul 5, 2016 8:44:58 GMT -5
I feel like I should write up a formal comment here, to say how much I enjoyed this, despite me constantly messaging you my reactions with each development already. I don't normally read fanfiction anymore, since it's very hard to find stories that are well-written and also enjoyable for me personally. This was a really wonderful surprise, I found myself totally engrossed and really caring about these characters I had never met before. I also feel like I got to know Teisel a lot better, following his hardships and actually getting into his head and being able to really feel for him. Even though they died (and rather horrifically on Tron's part, thank you very much D'x ), it was really nice whenever Tron and Volnutt showed up in the story, even if it was from the story within the story, you wrote them really well, or at least, in a way that appeals to me as a huge fan of those two in particular.
I love the way you characterised everyone, but there were some things that stood out to me especially, which I'll talk about; Aero is fantastic, I never got a Mary-Sue vibe from her, and I appreciate how she went from a character with very little interaction to one that became a lot more important to the story as it went on. I really appreciate as well how you didn't just fix her family problems with an inspirational speech from Teisel. I hate how most media fails to realise that, a lot of the time, words and reasoning just can't get through to shitty parents; sometimes they're just inherently shitty, despite anyone's best attempts. Her new design is adorable, I love her hair. I love her MML3 design too, but I really like that you didn't just age it up, and actually took it in a creative direction. I also like her friendship with Teisel, that hug after the fiasco with Roll and the memorial service warmed my heart, especially when he reassured her that they were family, it was really sweet, and even though she isn't a replacement for Tron, I'm glad Teisel has something resembling a sister again.
Roll, as much as I dislike her, was really well written. I love that you addressed her feelings (eye roll) for Megaman, and I felt really sorry for Art, having to feel like he's only second best, or a rebound. Don't worry, guy, I'm rooting for you. I don't blame her for wanting to bring Volnutt back though, I would do the exact same thing even if it was kind of insensitive to do so. It killed me to realise that Tron died in vain, though. I'm sure if she was around for that AU where Trigger stays with them and tries to adapt to carbon life, she would do her best to help him and they'd live happily ever after, r-right? [my loud sobbing can be heard in the distance]
Something I wanted to say about Max, I love his fashion sense more than anything. In that, he is truly the most relatable character (I'm kidding, but I appreciate it more than you'll know). I also like the small things about him, like his illiteracy and flair for spending, and how good of a spotter he is. Such a good friend, I'm glad he's there for our green old man.
Teisel!!! I want to hug him!! Now my vow to protect his smile becomes even more important. Dashe, we need to start selling "Teisel Bonne Defence Force" t-shirts. In fact, the Bright Bats should just rename themselves that already. He's too good for this world, he didn't deserve any of what happened to him. I'm glad things improved for him though, I'm also glad he didn't die like you were hinting so strongly. Damn you, I should have seen through your tricks! I'm so glad he's okay.
I can't think of anything else to say right now, but if I do, don't worry, I'll be back on Discord to gush over it whether you're online or not.
EDIT: I FORGOT TO SAY HOW MUCH I REALLY LOVE YOUR ART. FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME, I LOVE IT.
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Post by Space Apollo on Aug 14, 2016 5:37:33 GMT -5
I just finished this not too long ago. Of course, you heard much of my reactions chapter-by-chapter, so this post serves as my overall opinions on the piece.
When I first came to MMLS, I was searching for interpretations of the Bonnes, but most importantly, Teisel. Sure, I knew the canon, but it simply wasn't enough for me. I wanted to know how others viewed him, particularly others who enjoyed him as much as I do. This fic is exactly the kind of character analysis that I needed.
You show Teisel's positives, but also his negatives. You even made him a good negotiator, which was something the games never really got around to showing. Of course, the Teisel in this fic is more serious, but that is understandable, given what he went through. You didn't give a magical 'reset' button, either. No one miraculously came back to life, not even Volnutt. Hell, his little dreamworld didn't last that long either, despite it being nearly perfect. I am sure he would've liked to stay there longer, but his love of the Bright Bats and his good nature urged him to save the people of Terra. Very in-character of him, in my opinion.
Speaking of the Bright Bats... your characterization of them is superb. Honestly, before your fic, I never really cared about them. They were just characters that weren't given a chance to shine, and I haven't really gone through the MML3 devroom material... mostly because it would just make me depressed that we're not getting MML3. However, you made me see their huge potential. A shame you didn't keep Barrett around, as I would've liked to see what he would've done when Teisel came around. I especially like Max and Pic the best.
I really enjoyed the accompanying art that came with the chapters. Surprisingly enough, you made short hair work with Teisel. Truthfully, I'll always love his long, flowing ponytail, but he doesn't look too bad with other hair styles.
My only complaint about the fic is how Tron died. Granted, I don't know much about the details of how she died, but it was made to be like she died quick. However, antifreeze poisoning is anything but quick. Ethylene glycol poisoning happens in stages, and it can take quite a few hours before stage 2 happens. Most of what makes ethylene glycol lethal takes time to form through metabolism. The first symptoms actually look a lot like alcohol poisoning... which would be excused away as Tron getting into Teisel's liquor cabinet. Even then, that would've earned her a trip to the hospital, because I doubt even her Servbots could overlook seizures, confusion, slurred speech, abnormal eye movements, and so on. Even if her Servbots were that stupid, I am sure someone else would've stumbled upon her or looked for her, seeing that she died in the warehouse. She didn't exactly run into a deep cave or ruin to die. (Fun fact: This is why antifreeze is so useful in homicide poisonings: it would seem very suspicious if a person dropped dead suddenly, but a slow and painful death could be covered up to appeal more natural. Most ethylene glycol deaths involve kidney failure, and that could be caused by a huge number of things. This is exactly why they added a bitterant to antifreeze, to make it far less easy to hide in drinks and coffee.)
...Anyway, I would be surprised if I was the first to point this out. It was just that one bit that always bothered me. Maybe I've watched too many true crime shows for my own good. Regardless of that issue, I am honestly thinking of showing this fanfic to a friend of mine who hasn't played Legends yet. It is very well-written and I enjoyed reading every bit of it.
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Post by Dashe on Sept 28, 2016 16:30:12 GMT -5
Polly, if you're still around next time I have to commit a series of murders, I'm definitely hitting you up for hashing out the specifics. Fictional assassination consulting should be at thing. Nobody else noticed, or at least nobody else mentioned anything. Thanks!
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Post by ShadyRounds on May 22, 2017 5:04:20 GMT -5
We were talking outside the forums, and I had mentioned I jot down fanscript for various media all the time, and there I was having no clue who I was talking to. Had I known, I'd have trusted you wouldn't think me odd.
I must admit, I had reservations that anyone would listen to me talk about fanfiction and not give me a weird look, but after starting to read this (will have to read episodically until I catch up in a few days), I feel a lot less self-conscious about discussing it with you. You'll probably get me, and not think me so weird, though I wouldn't blame you if you did, because yours is so much more intellectual and literate than mine is.
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Post by Dashe on May 22, 2017 12:22:53 GMT -5
Well, my avatar's sporting a weird look right now, so don't count yourself out just yet...
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Post by ShadyRounds on May 23, 2017 2:46:16 GMT -5
It's a whole nother beast, this writing is. Chapter 4, and it really did explode into depth all at once there, didn't it? Honestly, I won't lie, I don't like tales like this, only because they're too darn emotion-provoking for me.
"13 Reasons Why", having come after this, was still pretty shallow and attention-grabbing, while in contrast, everything so far up to Chapter 4 was really a long build up leading to a surge of so much deep plot and brutal emotion.
It almost says something about me, how I'd prefer media based on horribly savage jokes, than one on serious topics. Maybe I'm just too empathetic and took life too emotionally once before, to handle it well anymore, so I repress it and let "the villain" in me shrug off dark topics instead with dark humor.
...was there something particular about your avatar? I hadn't noticed anything yet, maybe I'm not observant in the right way to "get it".
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Post by Dashe on May 23, 2017 17:07:23 GMT -5
I read 13 Reasons Why about a month ago and wasn't impressed. I haven't watched the show, which is supposedly different. I'm just more of a book person. I'm pretty sure I made at least one guy cry over this story. The real thing is, would that work on anyone who doesn't come in already knowing Teisel?
I also treat the avatars like that image of the character you sometimes see in an RPG dialogue box, you know? MoTB uses them. If you can't see what I have, it's Beck looking flummoxed and uncomfortable...in this case, in response to what appears to be a stoner goat. I know there's at least one person lurking about here who could probably use an explanation.
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Post by ShadyRounds on May 24, 2017 23:07:03 GMT -5
My avatar actually looks like me tbh. I'm not saying yours don't look like you, I don't know that. But... You know, I have to keep telling myself, "this is just a really good story, Data probably knew how to build a spaceship, they'd have asked him for help before this point". But it is devastating and feels real in an untidy way. Life is often untidy.
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Post by Dashe on May 25, 2017 0:44:13 GMT -5
(...I've never seen a picture of anyone who's looked so much like a stoner goat in my life.) There are definitely a lot of what-ifs and regrets over what people thought they should've done in regards to everything involving Legends 3. It's only fitting that this is the version of Legends 3 that I'd come up with! A quote I found floating around social media by Cheryl Strayed comes to mind, "You don’t have a right to the cards you believe you should have been dealt with. You have an obligation to play the hell out of the ones you’re holding." The image of it floating around cuts it off prematurely, because it finishes off with the speaker saying they'd been dealt a generous hand, but without that last part, it applies in this case, I'd wager. The real question is, who has more regrets and "should've-would've-could'ves" floating around, Teisel regarding his family or Keiji Inafune regarding Legends 3? But if I get too philosophical about it, I'll probably end up writing Loken's paper for him before he gets back from wherever it is people go when they stop hanging around here.
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Post by Digouter on May 25, 2017 2:00:30 GMT -5
Ahahah, thank you so much Shady for reviving this thread! I was kinda worried about posting reviews here for some reason, but now I finally can > . YOU HAVE UNLOCKED THE FLOODGATES. Always did think that Dashe's story deserved more time in the limelight! I'll be posting the reviews in this thread from here on out, starting wiiith *presses start to continue*: CHAPTER 17: MAX'S MISSION So uhm... Teisel and Russell, kind of stuck. Probably low on air and considering you're with Teisel, a lot of that's going to be replaced by his yelling. Max is the only one who knows they're there, and he wants to get help but uh... Not only does he end up reading Teisel's very private notebook, he does this for five hours. My god Max XD. That said though, it's really nice to have the focus go to the Bright Bats for this chapter. Little things like Grill getting along with Sprocket, his conversation with Polly, among other things haha. I know I already told you this before, but I like the little things a lot! It may not exactly push the plot a good deal forward, but I feel like they still contribute in their own way. It had been a few days since I read the last chapter so I ended up reading previous chapters again to keep things fresh, but at least it never really gets old . It's pretty awesome that I get to say this in public instead of messages but yeah. Your story, despite all the face and gut punches one has to endure going through it... it's a helluva trip x). More reviews to follow!
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Post by ShadyRounds on Jun 20, 2017 5:04:24 GMT -5
You know, I used to be Tron. Obsessive. Suicidal. I can kinda see why she acted according to this scripted outcome. I can also see how Tiesel perceives it, because I used to be like Tron, but now I'm like Tiesel, less immediately suicidal and a lot more careless of the consequences since afaik my past is gone and consequences don't matter. Don't read too far into that, I'm definitely more fine "now" that I was when I was socially obsessive and depressing. I figure I got 50 more years to live and will probably sit here waiting for it to happen instead. It only means death would be more threatening to me right now if I weren't past my early 20's "glory years" and if there were a real chance that I could actually live forever. Since I'll die eventually, there's no desire to die, nor desire to "play it safe" either. I'm just saying, I get Tron, and I get Tiesel. *continues reading*
Awesome to hear. I think you're the only person who's marathoned this without me holding them at gunpoint! Also. it's not been "the whole thing at once" for me, I miss having that liberty from when I was younger, having to stop for obligations and come back is such sorrow, but I've just finished to the end of Chapter 18 in 3 sittings and not too much more than 3 weeks (once a week). It's as much time as I can dedicate to "Hunter x Hunter", which is the biggest compliment I can give.
I just finished the ending of this. Let it be known on this day, that I express deep sorrow, that it had to come to a conclusion, and leave me with the story at an end. I really need to re-read this sometime after the next time I play MML+MML2. Recommending it to a friend too. He's not huge into MML or reading, but he's willing to plug the whole thing into a reading program for him to listen to for a while some night, based on what I described. The story really was emotionally draining on an empathetic level. While it was worth reading despite me having an unhealthy level of empathy, at the same time, I'm just too emotional for this to be healthy to read too much at once and too frequently. Once again, thanks Dashe.
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Post by Dashe on Jun 23, 2017 12:28:00 GMT -5
You're welcome. I'd be curious to hear how people who've never heard of Mega Man Legends would take it and how confused they'd actually be about the lore. Personally, I'm glad to have been able to finish it and have an ending for everyone to read, because the alternative is really awful, and that's really the reason this story exists at all. Finish your projects, kiddos, even if you don't think you have fans. Someone may discover your half-finished project in ten years and fall in love, and nobody likes vaporware.
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Post by ShadyRounds on Jul 17, 2017 15:12:31 GMT -5
Dashe, did your Photobucket die with all the chapter art links? It was working like 14 days ago, I swear.
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Post by Mikéy on Jul 17, 2017 23:49:57 GMT -5
Oooooh boy. She's gonna have a field day going back through and re-posting links from Imgur.
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