Digger rights Question.

[reaverbot4dinner]

what are the diggers rights?
Is it like normal mining rights so that, what ever i find underground, i can claim. This leads me to MML2 the Fire Ruins, Megaman kinda steals from Bon Bonne, he had the Third key first.
Could the Bonnes sue Megaman for this?

If we assume Mining Rights work for ruins, then Megaman clearly was wrong. even getting aside the point of them being pirates.
What do you think Digger rights would be?

[HF]

Like Gun Frontier, there are no laws out or under there.

Except the story won't get into that as it's a kid's cartoon.

[Chiz]

One first has to wonder, who has jurisdiction in a ruin? We can assume that most city governments have little beyond their walls, and no power beyond the shore of their island. As of MML2, it's firmly established that in locations without local governments to protect a ruin entrance, the Digger's Guild administers the location.

As such,the Guild would administer the side-ruins at Manda (and possibly the main one at Manda, too, given the dramatically poor gov't structure in place at Pokte Village), Calbania (no gov't), Kimotoma (Saul Kada may have *some* claim), Nakkai & Shalakun (firmly outside Gold City) and any pillar ruin like the tutorial of MML1.
It's also entirely possible that the Guild participates in conflict resolution in ruin locations in cities that do not have adequate police force or militia, ie everywhere but Kattelox, Gold City/Ryship, and Nino/Ruminoa.

In cases where there is a conflict, one party could go to the guild (I guess in Nino?) and make the claim that they've been slighted. In many cases, absolutely nothing would occur. In cases where both parties agree to have the matter settled by the guild, the guild would they, presumably form an abritral tribunal to hear the case and give a verdict. Either way, as everything is not particularly binding in any way, the two parties may still choose to continue to debate the altercation and may end up feuding for some time.

In the case of the Bonnes and Trigger at Saul Kada, one can make the claim that the Bonnes' activities underground were an extension of the raid on the city, and that they were both trespassing and digging without authorization. In this instance, Trigger is reasonably justified for continuing after them in the ruins and attacking them, especially after they make the declaration that they are fully intent on attacking Trigger. Being outlaws, they don't have much legal recourse, even if legal framework exists.

Unfortunately, this is all complete conjecture, as the games never made it clear if how society operated was much different than "the wild west with airships".

[reaverbot4dinner]

That would actually have been really interesting to see in MML3 :C

If they would explore a Ruin and find the main treasure removed, and kept by someone. I would say the story is too nice to Megaman normally, what if he had to steal it from them, even ask help from the Bonnes to do it? Ah *cries a tear* a fan can dream.

I mean, really fun it could be if Megaman came out of the Second Ruin in MML1 with the red Refractor and then the mayor goes
"I am sorry Megaman, we need that refractor for our Powerplant"

Given in Saul Kada too, did Megaman and Tron Bonne not work together in those Ruins, so what about Digger Code of Ethics like what all the Diggers expressed in MisAdven of Tron Bonne?
Wait, Tron breaks that later in the ruin... herself... Well Bon Bonne did not break that. That would depend on who shoots first.
Megaman did.

But you make a good case for the Government administration of Ruins according to Law of people there. Chiz

Lets look at it differently then, is it ethically correct to steal even from a criminal?
I could kinda not answer this myself.
What do you think ?

[Loken]

That's a very interesting concept Chiz. I love fleshing out how society works in MML!
I doubt diggers have alot of protection from the guild against this kind of thing. They barely have enough power to defend their own base let alone settle digger-pirate disputes. Also I wouldn't really trust an organization with a guy like the guild master at the helm. Who knows, maybe the diggers guild is very zealous about protecting the ruins. I wonder what the organization thinks about searching for the mother lode.

[Deleted]

That's a very interesting question about the Diggers.

There's some questions that I have myself:

Are there rules that Diggers must respect? How do they sort matters like who's the rightful owner of a refractor when more than one Digger reached it at the same time? Is there a limit to how many refractors a Digger may have for himself? Or is it everyone for himself, who cares about the consequences?

It would have been nice to have more of a background on this matter, especially since it plays a big part for the residents of Terra.