sanime
Mirumijee
RamenRider
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Oct 24, 2009 23:15:26 GMT -5
Post by sanime on Oct 24, 2009 23:15:26 GMT -5
There should be a chatbox for MLS so that everyone will get to know each other better, chatango looks perfect for this site chatango.com/
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Oct 25, 2009 0:01:45 GMT -5
Post by Musashi on Oct 25, 2009 0:01:45 GMT -5
We've been over this a bunch of times, and it's been decidedly decided upon that a chat box would be a bad decision.
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Tau
Cannam
Abridged the Series
Donation for ze little fr?ulein?
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Oct 25, 2009 0:26:46 GMT -5
Post by Tau on Oct 25, 2009 0:26:46 GMT -5
We have (or used to have) an IRC channel, but there seemed to be a general lack of interest. It was rare to actually find people in it. Personally, I like the idea of having one, but what's the point of a chat box or IRC channel if no one's going to use it?
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sanime
Mirumijee
RamenRider
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Chatbox
Oct 25, 2009 1:54:56 GMT -5
Post by sanime on Oct 25, 2009 1:54:56 GMT -5
How's it a bad idea? I wasn't around to hear about this. If it's hard to see then we should put it on the main site or something
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Oct 25, 2009 2:13:37 GMT -5
Post by Musashi on Oct 25, 2009 2:13:37 GMT -5
I don't recall the exact reasons, but I believe it to be around this nature:
Detracts discussion from the forum, lack of interest in general(sounds a bit contradictory with my previous point, but usually one of the two happens), lack of active moderation could lead to a lot of spamming, stuff like that.
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Oct 25, 2009 2:37:36 GMT -5
Post by mirak on Oct 25, 2009 2:37:36 GMT -5
In short, they don't want people havin' fun 'round here. lululul jk
What the guy above means with "detracts attention from the forum" is that the mods prefer to see threads filled with long, "thoughtful" posts in them instead of having a few lines of "today i ate a grilled cheese sandwich" in a chatbox that lags the page loadout and has usual database errors if you submit too many messages too fast.
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MayImilae
Zakobon
Badgeless, and proud of it!
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Oct 25, 2009 2:42:28 GMT -5
Post by MayImilae on Oct 25, 2009 2:42:28 GMT -5
IRC chats in a forum community are like goldfish. Everyone wants them, then ker-FLUSH.
Forums and Chats are different communication mediums. Those that want to chat go to chat places, those that want to talk on forums go to forums. So when a forum adds a chat, those that are on the forum aren't really that interested and people who like chats aren't interested. It's a recipe for failure. Goldfish.
*ching* 2 cents loaded. Need 98c more to play the next round.
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Oct 25, 2009 3:07:52 GMT -5
Post by Musashi on Oct 25, 2009 3:07:52 GMT -5
You gotta love the passive-aggressiveness that Mir@k weaves oh so lovingly into any post discussing MMLS's "The Man" and his infinite rules and guidelines on posting.
But yeah, this isn't to say we haven't tried. I think we've tried at least two/three times, at least with an IRC, none of the times it worked out. Chat boxes are just messes in general, though.
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Oct 25, 2009 3:23:44 GMT -5
Post by mirak on Oct 25, 2009 3:23:44 GMT -5
Whut, i was ttly srs thar. I speaketh truth this one time.
EDIT: No really, for those that could make a tragic misinterpretation of my post, i did speak with truth in the last post. Amen.
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Oct 25, 2009 3:38:03 GMT -5
Post by Musashi on Oct 25, 2009 3:38:03 GMT -5
I know, I know, I'm just poking fun, Mir@k...err, King Miroc.
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Oct 25, 2009 3:58:49 GMT -5
Post by Santa Melty on Oct 25, 2009 3:58:49 GMT -5
The whole chatroom deal has been brought up a handful of times and has generally been met with disinterest. Though I think that the disinterest was originally only a minor contributing factor. There was more to it.
My memory on this is really fuzzy, but I believe the original problem was not so much the detracting of attention from the forum or the moderating issues so much as it was the implementation.
Way, way, WAY back when something like this was first suggested, I believe the issue was that the Proboards version of the day didn’t support any chatting features, so it would have taken either some complicated work-around or us switching to another forum host to have worked. Basically, we didn’t want to switch from Proboards because it would have meant losing all the threads that had been created since the forum’s inception (major sentimentality value there), and we didn’t want to do any workarounds because (and this is where everyone else's abovementioned points come in) there just wasn’t enough interest and it would have been more work to moderate and so on. It just wouldn’t have been worth it.
Of course, as I said, my memory of all this is pretty much bunk already, so there may have been other issues or different concerns or the whole thing could just have been a product of my own imagination. Don’t ask me to cite my sources for all this either, because I don’t want to go hunting through years of old threads for something I scarcely remember anything about.
Anyway, that said, I’m pretty sure circumstances have changed for the better. The application you linked to looks pretty feasible, which would just leave the other more minor issues like moderating and such. Fab would have to be consulted for the technical stuff, and Dashe for any potential moderating concerns she might have, but if the setup is clean enough, I don't see why we couldn't throw it up on a trial basis just to see how it goes, even if there’s only a very minor interest (which I’m just about positive is the case). Who knows, it might catch on. And if it doesn’t, or it becomes too problematic to moderate, it can always be taken down.
My thoughts.
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