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Post by Dashe on Apr 18, 2011 19:00:11 GMT -5
I was surfing the Japanese Devblogs and noticed what looks like an augmented reality code on the far right. Can anybody with a 3DS view it as it is, or is that not possible at the moment? *Still not quite sure how augmented reality on the 3DS works...or what the proper terminology is.* This post serves as a testament to my technical ineptitude. Read this thread before even thinking about asking me for computer help at all. Or not.  |
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Post by tominator on Apr 18, 2011 19:20:00 GMT -5
It's been there awhile and it's not specific to the 3ds, as a matter of fact the 3ds can't read it (it'll say Mii in the center if the 3ds can read it. This particular QR code is meant to be deciphered by another hand held device, usually a phone. They are quite popular in Japan (or so I have been told) and I've even seen a few pop up in advertisements in the grocery store here in the Southern US. Here's a QR code on a billboard in Japan:  In this particular case the QR code when scanned links you to the devroom blog. You can use this online website to decode QR immages: zxing.org/w/decode.jspxFor the QR code on the devroom website  we get: m-blog.daletto.net/dash3/There is also one on the Kinako blog posts which links back to the Kinako blog post page:  It decodes to: m-blog.daletto.net/kinako/Try it out yourself it's rather fun (just copy image location and post it in the decoder). Or maybe I'm just rather needy. As a side note, this is not an augmented reality thing (AR). On the 3ds the AR is all done on the system and the cards themselves don't really do anything besides provide a point of reference. |
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Post by Dashe on Apr 18, 2011 19:36:18 GMT -5
Okay, if they're (typically) for phones, it makes sense to have them offline in places like billboards and grocery stores for advertising purposes and helping people find out more about products they'd want to buy in a real store. Like having an instant google button in real life when you don't know what something is. But having a QR--not sure where that abbreviation came from at all--code on a web page that basically links you to the same web page when so many phones just get Internet to begin with seems a bit redundant. :06:
Slow down, technology...please.
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Post by Pitch on Apr 18, 2011 21:32:25 GMT -5
QR stands for Quick Response. It's not really augmented reality, but it kind of is. It's like pointing and clicking on links in real life; at least in this case that's what it does. 3DS doesn't have its web-browser add-on yet, but when it does get that, it will probably be able to use these things, too.
Maybe they put it on the website so people would post it around in real life. Like, you should put it on your Devroom flyer.
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Post by Dashe on Apr 18, 2011 21:44:21 GMT -5
Hah, it did look like an AR card code...I've just never seen one anywhere else before, used for anything else but making giant Miis pop up in Japanese squares. Ever. Next time I make a flyer, I'll definitely add it into the composition, though. Do they only scan in black and blue, or will any dark color work?
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Post by tominator on Apr 18, 2011 22:29:59 GMT -5
Well, I think you may be getting AR and QR codes mixed up with each other. As Pitch noted QR codes stand for Quick Response and they really are just 2 dimensional (vertical and horizontal) bar codes. The 3ds currently makes use of this for the mii plaza. You can generate a QR code which when scanned by another 3ds will make that mii appear on their system. Here's a picture of this I pulled from Google:  AR (short for Augmented Reality) is a different animal where gameplay takes place in a real space. For example, here's someone doing an archery game on their table with their keys visible (it's as if the game is really taking place on their table).  I find this one of the more interesting features of the 3ds. The cards used for this feature look like this:  There is actually nothing special about the cards themselves, they just provide a point of reference for the 3ds and tell it what pre-programed image to display. As I'm sure you've seen, these can even be enlarged to make a truly large AR image. In any case, tech babble over; it doesn't really matter anyway we all understood what you meant anyhow. |
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Post by Qwertman on Apr 19, 2011 16:59:06 GMT -5
It's completely unnecessary for them to have QR codes on their site. Someone in charge of the website just thought it was hip and wants to put it everywhere, it's like a new toy for them.
It's kind of like how you would see the little tm symbol after every little slogan and title, especially on websites, software, and instruction manuals. Now people realize that's stupid and they only do it when it really makes sense.
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Post by Rockman Striker on Apr 19, 2011 18:19:28 GMT -5
Ok, i´m starting to suffer a headache and a heart attack at the same time... So from what i understand, this little square is put on that site say, for example, i´m on my computer but i want to post something on that page via my phone, if it has that feature i can scan (infrared or just a shot?) and automatically it will display that page on my phone?  I really like this kind of "useless" technologic advances, i want to try it!!! |
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Post by Pitch on Apr 19, 2011 18:35:59 GMT -5
@rockman Striker It's like a 2-dimensional barcode. Your camera phone can take a snapshot of the code and interpret it to get the link and open it in your browser. (Assuming your camera phone supports this feature.) It's easier for a phone or internet-ready device to interpret these QR codes than it would be for them to read a link as text.
Regarding the colors, dark on light is ideal. I would imagine you can get away with using multiple dark colors, but why you would I don't know. And in the future, there may be special significance for multi-color QR/bar-codes. (As it is now, regions are either "on" or "off" in a very binary sense; multiple colors could allow for loads more combinations.)
As for whether or not it's necessary on the webpage, it's probably true that it's not helping anyone by being up there. But they are providing something that people can post around and share. And that's kind of cool.
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Post by Rockman Striker on Apr 19, 2011 19:08:14 GMT -5
Ok, i´ve further researched on this subject, now i understand the difference on QR codes an AR, so for the sake of technological advances i shall present you.... this forum QR code!!!!  If any of you has the technology to scan this code, please try it, ´cause i can´t! |
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Post by tominator on Apr 19, 2011 19:55:30 GMT -5
I don't have a QR phone, so I don't know what an internet ready QR phone would do, but you could use the decoder I linked: zxing.org/w/decode.jspxThat decoder yields the following results: zxing.org/w/decode?u=http%3A%2F%2Fqrcode.kaywa.com%2Fimg.php%3Fs%3D8%26d%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fmmls.proboards.com%252F&full=trueOr if you don't want to hit the link: mmls.proboards.com/Congrats on generating a MMLS QR code! Now people can put it in artwork to link back to the site. Edit: Dashe's question about what colors can be scanned intrigued me, so using the QR code that Rockman Striker made I came up with these: First experiment. Can a non-black color be scanned, the online decoder could.  Experiment #2, can something be added to the background or can a non-monochrome image be used as the scan lines. Again the decoder was able to interpret these:   I don't have a QR compatible phone or other device, so I have no clue if these can work with anything other than the online decoder. |
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Post by Dashe on Apr 19, 2011 20:53:42 GMT -5
Or on a wristband, provided the technology becomes widespread enough that people with QR phones would be a common occurrence. Maybe we could convince fAB to get a tattoo of it or something. |
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Post by Raijin on Apr 20, 2011 0:48:12 GMT -5
Would anyone in the west have a QR-compatible phone right now? The way I've always understood it is that QR codes took off in Japan a few years ago to go along with their cutting-edge mobile phone technology, but the concept never caught on over here. The 3DS could very well be the first widespread use of QR codes. That's probably why there's so much confusion about them in the first place.
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Post by Dr. Jerk on Apr 20, 2011 0:55:17 GMT -5
There are QR-reading phones in the west. My hickville-of-a-city once had a news report about QR's. Goes to show.
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Post by tominator on Apr 20, 2011 9:20:10 GMT -5
There are also free QR programs for the Iphone and Ipodtouch 4g (who knows maybe the Android as well). With apparently everyone and their brother owning one that is a fairly wide demographic with QR code scanning capability. If QR codes are going to become a big thing here I'd say the time is pretty ripe now. If the 3ds also will have QR capabilities that would make things even more likely due to an even larger user base, especially if it's a built in feature instead of something you have to seek out and download on your own.
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