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Post by Chiz on May 25, 2010 23:26:14 GMT -5
www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247032"The E3 shocker is said to be in development at a western studio, as opposed to its traditional Japanese base. [...] However, although western devs won't be able to try their hand at new IPs, Capcom believes that they can effectively outsource existing franchises to the West." To have anything Megaman related, Legends or not, developed by a western subsidiary (or worse, a 3rd party) doesn't seem like something Inafune would go along with. After all, the whole series really is his own project; there are few MM games that haven't have his immediate oversight and contribution, such as the latter half of the X series... Personally, assuming it isn't something already announced, I think the sequel will either be a sequel to a Capcom game/series not seen since the SNES/Genesis (destined for the Small-Games download platforms for any and all of the 3 consoles), or the 6th/7th game in a series that isn't that big of a "bombshell" announcement. Either way, a Megaman game of any sort probably won't be it. To take a random stab [/pun], a remake of Magic Sword or something - that one was just released on PSN and XBLA in April.
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Post by Cleveland Rock on May 25, 2010 23:28:09 GMT -5
It's possible it will be Bionic Commando Rearmed 2, which was already announced. If that's what this so-called "bombshell" is, I will be so mad.
Edit: Then again, it would be a pretty weird coincidence that they registered the trademark "Mega Man Universe" right before E3, especially since "Mega Man" is an American title and E3 is an American convention. All it needs is an American developer.
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Post by Raijin on May 26, 2010 0:30:59 GMT -5
Doesn't change my perception of the odds much. I can't really picture a bombshell relating to an UNestablished series. "Surprise! It's something all new that nobody was anticipating!"
Capcom has a lot of franchises, each with their own fanbase with reason to expect a bombshell of some sort. It's not that a Legends revival is unlikely, it's just that with respect to this specific news, the probability is marginalized by all the other possibilities.
The climate is gradually changing in our favor though. Capcom's doing pretty well overall, there's been a recent resurgence of popularity for retro games, Legends cameos in TvC and MvC3 are probably the most significant towards re-sparking interest in the series since Tron's role in MvC2. There are all sorts of signs that suggest our long-awaited new Legends game is right around the corner.
I'm not sure how to qualify 5 Islands Adventure though. On the one hand it's a scaled-back new DASH that could serve as a jumping-off point for something bigger and more accessible. On the other hand it could count as the much-awaited sequel to the Japanese people that get to play it, effectively taking some of the pressure off, too bad for non-Japanese fans. Myabe a bombshell could be they're actually localizing it somehow.
This could be a good sign. It's been reported that Megaman as a whole is more popular in the west than it is in Japan. The recent MM titles having earlier english release dates and special west-targeted references (the retro sci-fi MM9/10 faux box art.) seems to support this. Having a COA-developed Megaman game seems to be the logical conclusion.
Actually, a LOT of Rockman games have been produced without his immediate oversight and contribution. The vast majority in fact. That Producer credit of his gets tacked onto every game regardless of what he actually had to do with it. IntiCreates is an outsourced 3rd party studio that's been at the helm of every MM platformer of the last several years. They're hardcore fans over there that try to emulate Inafune's style to a T, and brought Inafune in to contribute some direct advice and artwork for MM9, but for the most part Inafune's role has been the same as in every other recent title - rest of the studio does all the work, he gets progress reports, then he gives the stamp of approval. He doesn't even have to agree with the approach much to give the stamp of approval just for the sake of the business, which was reportedly his attitude towards X6.
If there were a west-developed MM game, his role would presumably be the same. He's the Global Head of Development now, so he's still going to get to give some input either way.
Yeah that doesn't say much. Remember that the title for Mega Man 9 was reported registered before there was any news about the Rockman version. That just says the western distribution people are getting their stuff out of the way early without as much regard to secrecy.
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Post by Dash on May 26, 2010 8:56:49 GMT -5
Um...have they released new character spots in MvC3? If not, I don't think it's very safe to assume that there will be any Legends characters in it. TvC, as we all know, had Trigger...do you really think they'd go ahead and throw him in MvC3 as well?
If anything, I believe they'd throw in X or one of the other newer incarnations of Mega Man.
And on the note of Bionic Commando 2 being the bombshell...loooooool, yeah. I wouldn't count on that happening, Cleveland.
And we're still missing the possibility of the RE2 remake. I think that's viable enough as a bombshell.
Edit: Just did some searching on Google and found that there's a Kattelox (Cattelox) Island stage, with Tron, Tiesel and Servbots in the background. So yeah, maybe they'll have a Legends character after-all...or maybe it's just a cameo thing.
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Post by Cleveland Rock on May 26, 2010 15:45:39 GMT -5
And on the note of Bionic Commando 2 being the bombshell... Bionic Commando Rearmed 2. The "Rearmed" part is very important. I can't name one person I know who would want to see a sequel to "Bionic Commando"…
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Post by Dash on May 26, 2010 22:38:08 GMT -5
I don't deny that, but I don't think it's popular enough to be considered a bombshell...maybe? O.o
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Post by Cleveland Rock on May 30, 2010 20:05:11 GMT -5
I don't deny that, but I don't think it's popular enough to be considered a bombshell...maybe? O.o Don't forget: to most people, an announcement of Mega Man Legends 3 would probably be "just another Mega Man game".
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Post by Raijin on May 30, 2010 23:01:23 GMT -5
I don't deny that, but I don't think it's popular enough to be considered a bombshell...maybe? O.o Don't forget: to most people, an announcement of Mega Man Legends 3 would probably be "just another Mega Man game". The same could be said about Bionic Commando to non-Bionic Commando fans. Any "bombshell" about an established series is going to be big news to fans of that series and so-so news to everyone else. That's inevitable, but in the gaming industry, tailoring to a specific fanbase is often as good as can be hoped for.
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Post by Cleveland Rock on Jun 3, 2010 14:57:10 GMT -5
I contacted Garnett Lee, the guy who first revealed Capcom's E3 surprise. I asked him if he could give me a cryptic hint as to what it will be, and also if it will be Mega Man-related. This was his exact response (via Twitter): I can't help but wonder if there's a cryptic hint hidden in that message somewhere.
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Post by blayze16 on Jun 3, 2010 14:59:03 GMT -5
I'm still hoping that its gonna be Megaman Legends 3.
But the bad thoughts I've had after seeing a truckload of cameo appearances (you can say that this also happens to Namco Bandai's Tales series and its characters, but its an ongoing mostly-local franchise with titles announced and released every so often) in other games make me sometimes think that DASH series might just be demoted to guest appearances as opposed to being an active part of the Mega Man franchise itself.
I just hope my thoughts are wrong on this idea.
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The "don't over-read: There's been ample speculation" seems suspicious. Perhaps he's referring to the comments on news sites that speculate what it might be. Possibly the most common title being speculated in the comments of a particular site if not ALL the sites that wrote an article on the E3 bombshell.
And I am not including capcom-unity's page here unless they also wrote an article.
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Post by Raijin on Jun 3, 2010 16:04:53 GMT -5
You basically just asked to see your Christmas presents early. If these guys went to the trouble of getting everyone waiting for an announcement at E3, you think they're going to give even the slightest hint what it is before then? They want us to keep guessing and they want us to be anticipating the surprise with bated breath. That's the point.
Congrats on actually getting a reply though. Guy must answer dozens of requests like that each day. So no, there's no hidden message there, just "keep guessing."
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Post by Cleveland Rock on Jun 3, 2010 17:00:38 GMT -5
If these guys went to the trouble of getting everyone waiting for an announcement at E3, you think they're going to give even the slightest hint what it is before then? Correction: Capcom went through the trouble of getting everyone waiting for an announcement at E3. Garnett Lee is not affiliated with Capcom. He's a journalist. I figure, what does a reporter have to gain from keeping secrets? Let it be known that I hate surprises. However, I see you've made it your mission to flame all of my posts.
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Post by Tau on Jun 3, 2010 19:57:13 GMT -5
Correction: Capcom went through the trouble of getting everyone waiting for an announcement at E3. Garnett Lee is not affiliated with Capcom. He's a journalist. I figure, what does a reporter have to gain from keeping secrets? Let it be known that I hate surprises. However, I see you've made it your mission to flame all of my posts. It's not a matter of what he has to gain, but what he has to lose. And that's quite a bit. ..."Boy, their E3 bombshell puts that to test. I'm not going to spill it because I don't want to make anyone mad, but boy their E3 bombshell puts that to test."...www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247032Capcom wouldn't be happy with him if he leaked their big secret. Unhappy Capcom means no longer being trusted with secrets. And for a journalist, that's not good. I don't think there's anything in that message. And even if there is some intended secret, it's so cryptic that it doesn't make much difference either way. Either way, I'm excited to see what their big announcement is, whether it be MML3 or not.
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Post by Cleveland Rock on Jun 3, 2010 20:37:59 GMT -5
Well, duh! That's why top-secret information is leaked anonymously. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the announcement, too, but I'm only interested in hearing about four of their series, and sequels have already been announced for three of them. All that's left for me is Legends 3.
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Post by Raijin on Jun 3, 2010 22:07:17 GMT -5
If these guys went to the trouble of getting everyone waiting for an announcement at E3, you think they're going to give even the slightest hint what it is before then? Correction: Capcom went through the trouble of getting everyone waiting for an announcement at E3. Garnett Lee is not affiliated with Capcom. He's a journalist. I figure, what does a reporter have to gain from keeping secrets? Let it be known that I hate surprises. However, I see you've made it your mission to flame all of my posts. I'm not doing any flaming. I don't even remember replying to any of your posts specifically. I'm just replying where I think I can clear up misconceptions. I'm trying to help. In this case I think we need to recognize this news for what it is; hype. Gaming journalists may not work for gaming companies officially, but they do in their own way through advertising, expo attendance, and other perks. Capcom and Garnet Lee just "leaked" that there's a shocker coming and it has to do with a Capcom series. That nets them the attention of anyone that's played any Capcom game and liked it. If they give out any more information to narrow it down, that subsequently narrows down the group of people that care, and they certainly don't want that. We have to accept that the news of the upcoming bombshell is all part of the master plan, and no amount of bargaining will get us special consideration. We'll just have to wait until E3.
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