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Post by Mikéy on Mar 1, 2015 19:14:23 GMT -5
Reaverbots are constantly exploding, only leaving behind refractors. I suppose you could start a farm if the eyes are from the Horokko by capturing and plucking, but is that ever specified?
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Post by Kyle on Mar 1, 2015 20:04:34 GMT -5
Pretty sure a decent chunk of MML NPCs have their own jerk-quirks. I'd reckon there are two explanations to this situation, depending on who you're playing as;
#1: Volnutt, being Volnutt, is just the sorta goody two shoes that'd donate priceless artifacts gratis. It's either that, or Roll pawns 'em off for her own purse.
#2: Hippopotamus is merely looking for good publicity in order to mask that little heist he pulled with a briefcase full of Zenny.
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Post by Dashe on Mar 1, 2015 20:27:25 GMT -5
Reaverbots are constantly exploding, only leaving behind refractors. I suppose you could start a farm if the eyes are from the Horokko by capturing and plucking, but is that ever specified? I don't think it was. The bigger questions would be whether or not plucking Reaverbot eyes out of their sockets and harvesting them en masse would downgrade their value, or turn your armor black, or some combination of the two.
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Post by satoh on Apr 2, 2015 2:17:40 GMT -5
Look at all the other diggers we've seen in action. Trigger is not a normal digger. He's a freaking ruins GENIUS SAVANT DEITY. He was literally made for that type of thing.
I think the reason reaverbot eyes are such amazing things, is because most people can't destroy one reaver safely, much less capture a bunch of them and carefully vivisect them. When it comes to reavers, for the average digger, its generally kill it or run away flailing like some kind of junkstoreman.
I'm fairly certain that a captured reaver would have some kind of self destruct too. It just seems like the kind of thing they'd do. Which would likely destroy the delicate eye portion.
It could also be that the eyes have to be in fairly good condition to be treasures. They could be easily damaged and lose that special something they have if they get even slightly scratched. Like how a huge diamond with a massive fracture running circuitously through the middle would be pretty worthless as a gem. Good for grinding wheels, but not much else.
The same even applies to refractors in a way. Big refractors are worth a lot because they're completely intact and working. Refractor shards don't work at all, very well, or are harder to use... but basically their use as currency is likely related to their usefulness as a power source. Once that use is gone, they're worth very little.
And yes, if Trigger had a huge stockpile of them and started flooding the market with them, their value would plummet. (Spice and Wolf gives a nice description of why, if anyone cares to be entertained and taught about business at the same time)
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Post by logamanx on Apr 24, 2015 10:24:46 GMT -5
Of course Megaman gave away the artifacts. He sees that they belong to the people of kattelox island and sees no reason to keep them from the view of the public. It is this unselfish attitude that separates the digger from the pirate.
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Post by satoh on Apr 24, 2015 15:17:47 GMT -5
Of course Megaman gave away the artifacts. He sees that they belong to the people of kattelox island and sees no reason to keep them from the view of the public. It is this unselfish attitude that separates the digger from the pirate. actually I'm pretty sure its the whole "not attacking you and taking stuff you legitimately found for myself" part that makes them different from pirates. After all, if diggers weren't allowed to keep cool stuff they find in ruins, no one would consider it a valid form of occupation.
EDIT: Hey! I just noticed, you're new here! Don't take my snark too harshly. I'm just a sarcastic kind of guy sometimes.
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Post by Avegodro on Apr 30, 2015 2:32:50 GMT -5
Eh I wouldn't say he's a genius savant deity, he did get lost for three days in the ruins. Also most if not all the artifacts you find are very old, only reaverbot eye farm you'd have going for ya would be a fossil farm and you just pry the eyes out of em. Another point to add to donating everything to the museum, what the devil would Rock do with them? I don't think Roll could make a weapon out of them. Cost you an arm, leg and the contents of several banks.
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Post by satoh on Apr 30, 2015 3:37:56 GMT -5
He could sell them, like any other perfectly respectable digger would do. I think many look at artifacts from digouts and assume that the process similar to archaeology... This would mean that the artifacts belong to the region they're found in and go to the appropriate authority...
I don't see that as the case in this setting. The reason is, diggers rely on digouts for their livelihood. Before you argue that archaeologists do the same thing, note that archaeologists get grants for their work, by convincing a museum or government to give them the money in exchange for any findings they may discover.
Digouts are more like digging through a landfill (with angry sentrybots) and trying to sell what you manage to salvage. Since its not really owned by anyone (garbage isn't considered property in most places, however it may be ON someone's property which is a different concern) until its salvaged, the owner is understandably, whomever manages to 'win it.' That is, if you put forth the effort and work, and survive the inherent danger, to get the artifact out of the ruin, you've won ownership of it by merit.
However. Since ruins are considered in most cases to be the property or jurisdiction of the nearest applicable government, township, or guild, they can deny you the privilege of entry, search, or seizure, of the ruins and their contents. They can also stipulate that you have the privilege to enter under the agreement that anything you find belongs to them, as a form of contract. (this is technically similar to how museums acquire artifacts from freelance archaeologists as previously mentioned)
Basically, [enter at your own risk], [keep what you kill], with a bit of [card carrying member] if applicable.
The reason what the Bonnes did on Kattelox was illegal, isn't simply "because pirates," but because their methods were both trespassing and property damage. Had they simply filled out the paperwork for a license and entered from the actual entrance, there wouldn't have been any problem.
Diggers wouldn't be diggers if they were always worried about being under someone's thumb. There would likely be some kind of service draft to collect refractors once in a while, but as a vocation it wouldn't be a worthwhile job.
That's just the most logical interpretation from my standpoint of course.
The truth is, our fair hero may simply have had a bone for the museum curator.
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Post by Avegodro on Apr 30, 2015 15:00:45 GMT -5
Selling them didn't occur to me until reading your response. Though the only time artifacts are sold in the games is illegally, the shady fellow in the second game and everything the Bonnes sell in their misadventures. Market for these items doesn't seem to be very good in their world.
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Post by Buster Cannon on May 2, 2015 18:56:40 GMT -5
Selling them didn't occur to me until reading your response. Though the only time artifacts are sold in the games is illegally, the shady fellow in the second game and everything the Bonnes sell in their misadventures. Market for these items doesn't seem to be very good in their world. That's a really interesting thought. We see a couple of the museum items in Nino's junk shop, but otherwise stuff like that is never sold in stores normally. I kinda like the idea of there being some underground black market-type stuff. It kinda falls flat though, since the 'artifacts' in Legends 2 were a translation censor; the junk store man and shady guy were selling dirty magazines instead of reaverbot parts in the original version.
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Post by satoh on May 2, 2015 20:28:25 GMT -5
Isn't the Shining Laser mkII made with a [Green Eye] which we can assume is probably some type of bot eye?
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Post by Avegodro on May 3, 2015 21:45:59 GMT -5
Green Eye: Lens found in ruins. I'm guessing it's the green part shown here, looks kinda like a green reaverbot eye or the things on the side of airships.
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Post by Iji Mendeleev on Apr 25, 2016 13:26:34 GMT -5
In my opinion, Megaman (Or Rockman) is just doing what an archaeologist (Damn my english is being bad today) would do, He found those stuff for "free" (Like spending Over 1 Million and 700000 Zenny on the active buster was free) so he gives them out for "free", just like how he found the Yellow Refractor in Cardon Forest and repaired Wily's Boat for "Free", But let's be honest, nobody would bother to do that if it wasn't for the Prism Crystal. But in a more realistic (Ugh i hate this word when it comes to gamimg,hate people who complain about stuff being too "OP" or too unrealistic) way, the money might not go to megaman directly, but it might go to somewhere else (*Ahem* Flutter's Fridge *Ahem*). Or he just brings it to the curator because its some strange junk he found underground.
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Post by jamesosyris on May 5, 2016 21:45:59 GMT -5
Dude, 11-year old me at the time had the biggest crush on her. (+Tron and Roll) She was a bit of a crazy and selfish person, but I kinda liked that...
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Post by Anime64 on Nov 17, 2017 10:33:53 GMT -5
I was disappointed with this sidequest. The curator was a jerk and called you selfish if you say no. Like I found the things, you should respect that. And I was hoping she would give you the component like saying "It was the first item I found and it inspired me to be a museum curator" instead of just getting it from some random person. And I know Mega was being selfless, but if he even sold one of those artifacts, Roll would have not had to sell all of his equipment in the second game.
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