What Truly Motivates The Diggers?

[Loken]

So I know the title is somewhat of a cliche' around these parts but it is the subject of the thread.
What do you think the diggers are in this for? Like Megaman for example. Why does he do what he does?
Is it because the mystery of him being found in the Nino ruins? Being adopted by a famous digger who probably influenced him to dig, but what is his reason for digging. We know that him and Roll are after the motherlode and that Roll is really searching for her parents, but is the reason the same for Megaman?
I don't think it is very likely he is after the money, and he hasn't really mentioned helping people with the endless energy or anything. Maybe he just likes the sense of adventure. I know that's a part of why I love the game.

So tell us what you think motivates Megaman, or anyother digger/pirate. Like why you think Barrel, bluecher, the Bonnes, or Glyde do what they do.

[Adrian2040]

Money, fame, legacy, finding new pieces of history, finding energy resources for the people, finding clues about the world's mysteries and purpose, solving the mystery of your missing relatives, helping your loved ones, loving the sense of adventure, finding the motherlode, finding things about your past, saving the world, etc.

Basically, similar reasons as to why Indiana Jones and Nathan Drake do what they do.

[HF]

Though it is clearer in the JP text, the many various (and arguably obvious) motives such as fame and fortune have already been mentioned in the introduction text scroll, but is likely reinforced in the EN releases to imply other possible motives (though the JP version has done the same, it phrases it more along the lines of "With their many motives" than as a direct question. Either way, the message is similar enough).

As Adrian has mentioned, likely reasons are for the fame that comes from the discovery, the thrill of the discovery itself, or a realistic (and likely biased) combination of the two.

[TronBonne]

I just assumed that Mega Man liked to go on adventures and explore mysterious places. It's not like he has anything else to do though. Like I've always thought that most people in their world aren't as pressured to go to school, get an education, or get a regular job. Being a digger and finding resources seems to be a "career" a lot of people take if they have a digger's guild and everything. And I can't even imagine how Roll and Gramps would survive without Mega Man digging to get them zenny, considering Roll had to sell all of Mega Man's weapons and stuff, so he doesn't have too much choice. But I guess it would be nice to know Mega Man's personal motivation.

[HF]

Mar 28, 2012 23:16:16 GMT -5 TronBonne said:

I just assumed that Mega Man liked to go on adventures and explore mysterious places. It's not like he has anything else to do though. Like I've always thought that most people in their world aren't as pressured to go to school, get an education, or get a regular job. Being a digger and finding resources seems to be a "career" a lot of people take if they have a digger's guild and everything. And I can't even imagine how Roll and Gramps would survive without Mega Man digging to get them zenny, considering Roll had to sell all of Mega Man's weapons and stuff, so he doesn't have too much choice. But I guess it would be nice to know Mega Man's personal motivation.

They way you put it makes Terra a horrible, horrible world run purely by a deterministic social structure.

[TronBonne]

xD I never heard of that term before, I looked it up (good old wiki), but I don't think that's what I was getting at in my mind...at least from what I can understand of it!

[Loken]

I never looked at it that way Tron. Good Point! Possibly Megaman just does this to get by. I mean in MML2 you have to buy a TV, Fridge, and things like that and you would think they would all ready have such things if they were well off.
Also it's not like Yosyonke, nino, Ryship and other islands even have schools. It's fairly clear that the whole world economy (basic as it is) revolves around refractors so there very well be economic reasons behind Megamans digging. To tie it back to schooling think about old mining towns. Many didn't have schools and learning wasn't considered important. Most miners kids skipped schooling and went straight to mining.

Bola might have enough money to live for along time but he's a pirate so he probably made a heck of alot more cash then your average digger. Now going to Barrel, he might not be able to properly retire. He has published books but who knows how much he made if any. From one look at the Flutter you can tell they aren't well off. He may need Megaman to sustain him.

I really like this discussion

[Dashe]

I think it's just so Mega Man and his folks can afford to keep the Flutter...not to mention, Digging runs in the Caskett family. Barrell the Invincible would certainly want his grandchildren to become diggers too, I'd expect.

As far as the Flutter goes, it's actually the same ship Gramps used when he was a Digger. In the Paulan Island chapter of 5-island, they make it pretty clear that they keep it for sentimental reasons, even though it'd probably be more practical for them to get a new ship the way the Flutter keeps breaking down and eating their money. We really haven't seen that many other ships besides the Gesellschaft and the Sulphur Bottom, and we know that despite being huge, Gesellschaft was a bargain compared to the kind of money Mega Man and Roll have put into the Flutter's repairs. I can only guess that the Flutter's technology costs so much because it's outdated, and other airships are usually much more affordable and practical.

[Mikéy]

Hmm. Let's see...

As far as "The Diggers" is concerned, the only people that really come to my mind is Megaman himself, The Junkman, Joe, The Bonne family, and Bola+Klaymoore. The latter two still being technically true to the name since they've been down in ruins before. From what I interpret, having to dig is essential so that power sources for machines can be found to preserve modern society.

The scenario somewhat reminds me of Monsters Inc.; it's easy to see why there's "scarers" that have to scare children, and partners for each scarer to alert the proper authorities in case something goes wrong. But by the end, they find a much more powerful source of energy that can keep everybody happy! (literally!), but anyway.

On Legends' terms, The "Mother Lode" is the powerful source of energy that everybody's looking for. Although, rumors having been pointing fingers towards Forbidden Island, "The Diggers" uncovered an ancient threat instead, and the "power crisis" scenario was almost forgotten after the "get the keys to the Mother Lode" deception was said and done. Could a powerful source of energy worthy of the name "Mother Lode" still be out there? Back to square one, right? No happy ending to be seen yet!

Since Legends' primary power sources can technically only be found in ruins until surfaced, digging is ideal for just about anybody, as long as they're able and willing to fend off the reaverbots who inevitably inhabit just about any ruin anywhere.

Hope, Despair, Charity, Greed, Duty, Power... It all depends on the digger, background, and history. The diggers may even question themselves at times... But, if digging were to cease, the people of Terra would have to either find new sources of energy pretty darn quick, or learn to live without power.

♪Row, row, row your boat...♪

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[Loken]

Dashe, wow I need to watch the rest of 5-Island! I never expected such cool series info to come from that game!

Mikéy, That really makes me want to know about old islands that have already been exhausted of refractors. I like the boom town concept. Where most of the populace moved on from island to island.

Now what about the Bonnes? Is fortune all they are after? If so you think they might have stopped a long time ago. There parents seem to have been wealthly, maybe they were pirates too? Carrying on the family name?

[Music_Swashbuckler]

I feel as if the Bonnes were once a weathy family, but due to their parents passing away (or just not being in the picture) Teisel takes up the head of the household and decides to take the illegal pirate route to provide for his family. Once they've established a name for themselves as being ruthless pirates, I think it became more of an adventurous reasoning rather than a financial one. If the Bonnes strictly focused on digging in ruins, I feel they would have much better luck. (Not to say I don't mind a little rpave through gold city every once in a while. )

Think about it, it took only a team of servbots to explore and find the Diana's Tear artifact from the ruins, imagine if there were multiple teams in different locations along with Teisel leading the more difficult missions.

In Trigger's families' case, I feel that their primary motive for their digging expeditions was to find information on the whereabouts of Roll's parents. Funding for the flutter, like Dashe said requires heavy matience to keep it working.

[MegaTuga]

For the Bonnes I think it's carrying the family name. Maybe I'm being too gentle with them but to be honest they didn't looked much like pirates to me. I'm positive that their parents passed away because... eh... orphans are good for a story... Like Rock... XD

I would do the same thing really. In order to carry what once was my father and mother's business after they passed away. And Tiesel and Tron... look very kind for pirates if you ask me.
If you remember they set up a store with the money they got from the giant refractor at Kattleox, so maybe they were trying to change their ways but returning into piracy after Tiesel blew up all the money (I still don't understand how Prof.Barrel didn't recognized them)

Now about the Casketts... right when we meet Roll, she and Megaman discuss about her parents, so my biggest bet would be that. They are merely scouting ruins as a living and searching for clues about Roll's missing parents.

Now about general Diggers... it's all in the intro. And I bet the Mother Lode is their main reason of motivation.

[Loken]

Hmm, when I was writing about the Bonnes I wasn't thinking about Stripe Burger or the department store. Maybe they wanted to get out of the pirate game. So I guess after the business failed they took up pirating again. They are certainly desperate at the beginning
of MML2 since they are working with Glyde. Maybe they just want to be sustainably rich? Possibly they just want to be powerful, whether in crime or business, and build the family name.

Klaymoore is they only character that's motivation seems to just be to uncover the Mother Lode. Maybe a great white whale type situation.

[SketchMan3]

I don't think it's really all that deep. What truly motivates the diggers? The same things that motivate me or any human being to do what they do.

I'd like to know what motivates Megaman specifically, though. Seems like he's just on for the ride, sometimes. lol

[geneocelot]

It's how they make a living as traditional labor in high demand ...as for Megaman IMO he does it both for said living and for Roll, Barrel seems to be an old man who once was a wild youth whom explored with great desire to uncover the unknown and reveal the hidden, nothing is more proof of being somewhere then something taken or removed from said place, be it a photo or a souvenir and above all else treasure. Personally I view digging as a lot like bounty hunting there's great thrill in batting reverbots and getting reactors, I think we all would risk life and limb ourselves to live like Indiana Jones in the raiders of The Lost Ark.