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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 1:18:27 GMT -5
I am a Christian ever since I was five years old. I had only really started to go to church last year with my father; and the reason why I like going to that church is simply because the dominee gives very good and interesting sermons, instead of boring ones.
I also believe that one must have tolerance when it comes to other people's beliefs and religions.
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Post by Avegodro on Aug 12, 2011 10:02:26 GMT -5
I used to go to church ( we don't anymore thanks to an incident between my parents and the pastor ) I've read parts of the bible and used to pray. But I don't anymore, I chosen not to get involved with my religion anymore.
To me the universe is there for a reason and works the way it does by design, divine or otherwise. I'm not going to go look for answers as to why or who.
Nowadays I only believe in humanity, the good and the bad. I as a person try everyday to walk a good path through life. I won't and refuse to rely on a higher power.
I tolerate all religions and beliefs as well.
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Post by Buster Cannon on Aug 12, 2011 19:31:41 GMT -5
I'm a Christian, and pretty much have been for a large portion of my life. I grew up in a Christian home, so I've been exposed to it since I was born. I believe that the only way to get to heaven is through repenting of your sins and believing that Jesus died for them. I believe the Bible to be entirely true, and hold it as my main standard. I don't really use the term 'religion' to describe Christianity though, as I see it more as a relationship with God than a bunch of rituals and motions.
That said, even though I grew up in a Christian household and went to church regularly, getting to know God for myself has been the biggest help in the past few years. I did doubt for a little bit, since I'm an extremely analytical person who likes to question things and get all the little details out (you probably already knew that ). In the end, I came to the conclusion that the Earth couldn't have been created by anyone but God, as there's far too many examples of extreme creativity all throughout nature for the world to have just "come into being".
I do think Christianity has kind of bad rap, though. Hypocrisy is pretty common as is the intolerance of other religions/lifestyles. Even if I don't agree with someone's belief/lifestyle, I'd never insult them or treat them as if they were beneath me. Respect is a really essential trait.
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Post by cyberguy on Aug 12, 2011 19:32:49 GMT -5
To me the universe is there for a reason and works the way it does by design, divine or otherwise. I'm not going to go look for answers as to why or who. Nowadays I only believe in humanity, the good and the bad. I as a person try everyday to walk a good path through life. I won't and refuse to rely on a higher power. I tolerate all religions and beliefs as well. Excuse my intolerance, but that post sounds awfully lazy. Religious tolerance sounds nice on paper, but really, all you're saying is "I'm too apathetic to support a religion and I don't care who's right." I look at the world kinda like a game where we have to figure out who made it. It seems to me that someone has to be right about who made the world, and if you're not even going to play the game, you have zero chance of winning. But hey, it's just my opinion. Don't let me tell you how to run your life. I, personally, am a Christian. Raised as a Methodist, specifically. (P.S. please don't get mad at me for my opinion. I can be brutally honest sometimes on touchy subjects, but I mean well.)
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Post by Rockman Striker on Aug 13, 2011 13:19:24 GMT -5
Something that always bugs me is the fact that many people (some of you included) left their religion just because they had a discussion with the priest, your "brothers" or didn't liked some rule or advice from your leaders, we all know that we are imperfect humans, we say things that after we wish we wouldn't said or done, why to go away from God because a human said or made us something that we didn't liked? of course, if you don't like your religion anymore you can go and search another one (not the one you like because it lets you do what you want, the one which you are sure it's best for you) but don't blame god because a human fail.
I once talked to a man that said that he left his religion because he felt like a slave on it, he said: "I went to work all day, and at night I went to my temple, then I go home and sleep, I had to wake up at 3:00 am to went to work again" it was the temple which had him like a slave! he worked all day like a slave, and he blamed his religion.
I recall: take it easy, I'm not lecturing you.
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Post by karkatvantas on Aug 13, 2011 19:25:27 GMT -5
I grew up as a United Methodist. Like all denominations of Christianity that make their home in the Bible Belt, it's hit or miss when it comes to whether or not each individual church makes you feel welcome if you stop by Sunday at 11:00 AM. I believe there is a God and I believe in the Holy Trinity, however, I do not agree with all of the teachings of Christianity as a whole.
I do not believe in evangelism through speaking to someone about God. I believe that true evangelism comes from sharing part of your day with people you care about. I believe that it does not require any discussions of religion. I think that evangelism should come from the heart. If someone isn't interested in believing in God, then they're only going to be put off if you mention religion.
I don't believe that people should hide their sins. I was taught and agree with the idea that sinning is completely natural and that everyone does it. It's as natural as breathing, honestly. I feel sometimes that some Christians should get over themselves.
I would like to honestly say that I treat everyone evenly and that I strive to care for everyone like I was told that Jesus did. Unfortunately, the fact remains that it's human nature to pick favorites. However, I would like to be more altruistic and non-judgmental in my life.
This forms the core of my belief, really. I think true Christianity is to care for my fellow humans as best I can. I believe that the best way to lead someone to Christ is, to paraphrase the Bible, to put my light on a hilltop for all to see. As for the interpretation of the word 'light', I merely mean my willingness to serve and aid my fellow people. I believe that I should respect my peers' beliefs and that I should not try to convince them that they are wrong. In fact, I avoid discussing religion unless someone else brings it up first.
After all, none of us know what lies on the other side. What's to lose by believing in any religion? Or perhaps none at all.
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Post by cyberguy on Aug 13, 2011 21:12:01 GMT -5
After all, none of us know what lies on the other side. What's to lose by believing in any religion? I agree with just about everything you've said, but this is exactly the point I was trying to make earlier.
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Aug 13, 2011 22:23:33 GMT -5
I'm a Christian and kind of have a short temper towards people who aren't. It's mostly because I believe in Hell and I try to keep people from going there.
But since nobody ever listens to me and instead tries to argue...
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Post by karkatvantas on Aug 14, 2011 0:11:16 GMT -5
I'm a Christian and kind of have a short temper towards people who aren't. It's mostly because I believe in Hell and I try to keep people from going there. But since nobody ever listens to me and instead tries to argue... This is exactly the kind of Christian attitude I DON'T condone. No offense against you, but what you're doing is 100% counterproductive. It's why people want to argue with you.
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Aug 14, 2011 0:14:38 GMT -5
But I don't ever start them. If I were you, I'd drop it ASAP. You don't even want to know what happened last time some person disagreed with me offensively.
J-just drop it, OK? I have seriously painful memories about it.
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Post by Anima on Aug 14, 2011 1:06:46 GMT -5
Guys please. I just wanted to start a topic sharing our beliefs. As I said before, let's keep it light, I don't want any flame wars against each other.
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Aug 14, 2011 1:20:41 GMT -5
Just my point. Thank you.
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Post by cyberguy on Aug 14, 2011 9:01:59 GMT -5
But I don't ever start them. If I were you, I'd drop it ASAP. You don't even want to know what happened last time some person disagreed with me offensively. J-just drop it, OK? I have seriously painful memories about it. I used to be like you when I was younger. I know it's hard to disagree with someone, and I realize that you're worried about people. Heck, I worry about them too. But if their's one thing I've learned from experience, it's that people are very sensitive about their beliefs. Arguing and getting angry with them is only going to make them mad at you and push them further away. You have to SHOW your belief to get anywhere. Still, I sympathize with you. I strongly disagree with your methods, but I know you're heart's in the right place. Just work on your temper and hopefully things will pick up. (Anima, I'm not flaming. I'm politely disagreeing and stating my reason why.)
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Post by Rockman Striker on Aug 14, 2011 14:46:13 GMT -5
I don't believe that people should hide their sins. I was taught and agree with the idea that sinning is completely natural and that everyone does it. It's as natural as breathing, honestly. I feel sometimes that some Christians should get over themselves. I agree with what you said, sinning is natural, actually it's an inheritance, When Adam and Eve sinned disobeying God's orders they then inherited their acquired imperfection to his descendants, since we are imperfect and we are their descendants we all born in sin, we are sinners from the moment we born even if we didn't make a thing. This is an important fact that many people can't or don't want to realize, it's just as with an institution against addiction, "the first step is to admit your problems" isn't?
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Post by Anima on Aug 14, 2011 16:57:03 GMT -5
(Anima, I'm not flaming. I'm politely disagreeing and stating my reason why.) Don't worry, I know you're not. You have the right to say why. I don't believe that people should hide their sins. I was taught and agree with the idea that sinning is completely natural and that everyone does it. It's as natural as breathing, honestly. I feel sometimes that some Christians should get over themselves. I agree with what you said, sinning is natural, actually it's an inheritance, When Adam and Eve sinned disobeying God's orders they then inherited their acquired imperfection to his descendants, since we are imperfect and we are their descendants we all born in sin, we are sinners from the moment we born even if we didn't make a thing. This is an important fact that many people can't or don't want to realize, it's just as with an institution against addiction, "the first step is to admit your problems" isn't? I agree with you both. Sinning is just a natural part of life, we all do it, even when we don't realise it. I find that accepting that we sin makes it a less burden on one's shoulders. And like Striker said, The first step is admitting your problem, which, to me, is the first step of accepting it. And, to point out, are words of wisdom from my dad.
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