Heat Sonata
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Post by Heat Sonata on Sept 25, 2009 0:54:49 GMT -5
I had a Zune player that copped out on me, so now I have an I-Pod. My I-Pod holds enough music, and I don't know what version it is and I don't know how much it holds. I just know it's enough and that I can apparently plug it into my alarm clock and play music (waking up to your tracks is awesome, for those wondering why an MP3 player would need an alarm clock. I didn't buy the alarm clock more expensive for that function, though.)
Yes, I bought my music player to play music, yes, I agree that all the functions on them should be music-related, no, I'm not going to rag on the people who buy them for more.
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Post by in·clover on Sept 25, 2009 2:00:20 GMT -5
Your generic mainstream music player now grants you the "invaluable " ability of letting you watch videos and read text and pdf documents in it's micro sized screen, just in case you feared you'd never lose your good eyesight, now i've heard that some has alarm and clock functions, agendas, games and can browse the internet. Excuse me but how can people still call these things "Music Players" with a straight face? I saw this vibrator in a novelty shop that plays MP3s. Talk about versatile usage. |
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Post by Pitch on Sept 25, 2009 9:34:21 GMT -5
@green: Yours doesn't have folders? Some don't. Both players I've had (before installing Rockbox) have sorted everything by their ID3 tags (artist, album, genre, year, etc.). The system works fine as long as you keep an eye on your tags when adding music. Mine does have folders. It was rather annoying at first, before I fixed the sorting issue, because all my albums would be completely out of order. (at the folder and track level!) At least then I could see which album I was looking at, though.. >___<; EDIT: Ugh.. something else that annoys me about my MP3 player: it's apparently an old version of USB that does file transfers really slowly. (I think it's literally ~40× slower, actually)MP3 alarm clocks are nifty. My PSP can do that. (hacks!) Before that, I could just rig up my computer to do it, though. (yayz linux)TBPH, I couldn't care less that all the functions of a music player aren't music related any more. Such is life. The device has enough power to do all that extraneous junk. It wouldn't cost much less if they just took out the software that does it all, since all the hardware would still be the same. They'd be cheating you if they didn't take advantage of its outrageous specs, really. |
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Post by in·clover on Sept 25, 2009 13:24:07 GMT -5
TBPH, I couldn't care less that all the functions of a music player aren't music related any more. Such is life. The device has enough power to do all that extraneous junk. It wouldn't cost much less if they just took out the software that does it all, since all the hardware would still be the same. They'd be cheating you if they didn't take advantage of its outrageous specs, really. Originally I was just expressing my unwant for portable media devices to be considered MP3 players. I'm fine with people who own these things, but when someone says they pity me for it and imply I don't have a taste for music just because I don't own a $200+ MP3 player that browses the internet, well... I get a little ahead of myself. They'd be ripping you off, right. But then I don't expect these specs to be there in the first place, and it's as simple as not including the updated hardware to begin with. They sell cheaper Zunes with less memory storage, I imagine they could sell one for even less with just a decent interface and overall sturdiness. Like they can't just sell the hardware at its bare bones. |
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Post by Pitch on Sept 25, 2009 14:05:04 GMT -5
Strip down the hardware and you have yourself a generic MP3 player.  At least, that's what mine is. It's basically a flash drive with a rudimentary menu-driven interface and a headphone jack.. o__o; Actually got voice recording and FM radio, too, for what it matters. EDIT: And a text reader too.. o__o; wow, didn't know that. And something for storing phone numbers for some reason. Krikey. |
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Post by Captain Amadeus (Legendary Em) on Sept 25, 2009 14:11:32 GMT -5
To clarify, I never said Zune/iPod > Generic for any other reason than music playability. From reading the first person accounts here, my position hasn't changed. Oh, and Mir@k, my friend Andrew has that mp3 player. Not a bad one, actually; I was refering mostly to the ones made out of cheap plastic that are bought in the $10 bin at walmart. The kind that is difficult to organize music on, or even what music to play at any time.
Zune is great for organizing music, and unless I've set it to it's shuffle setting, I never have to deal with all the skipping through tracks you seem to think I do. I choose the band's name, then choose the album I want to listen to. I can also pick straight from a list of over 2000 songs, or look through them just by their album title/art. I had an iPod for a brief amount of time, and I think the Zune has Apple beat in the ease-of-use category; plus, I've always hated that little scroll circle on the non-touch models.
Things like video players and picture viewing (which in that last case, is mostly useless) are just cool extras. Sure, you pay extra for something that has them, but you are also getting a better music enjoying experience at the same time thanks to their comparative ease of use.
And I'm sorry, 2 paltry gigs could never be enough music for me. Not even for all my favorite songs. I'm not the kind of person who just listens to Singles or songs I hear here and there. I get the full CDs and listen to them; filler tracks and all, because a good cd can only truly be enjoyed as a whole. Also, I like a lot of bands, and I wouldn't have so much music on my Zune unless I actually listened to it all. Maybe for some people that argument applies, but not to me.
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Post by mirak on Sept 25, 2009 15:44:58 GMT -5
Carrying around a portable tank of music is not equal to having a "taste for music".
Carrying around a portable tank of music plus useless features plus pointless popular brand is not equal to having a "taste for music".
That's the nucleus of this point.
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Post by Pitch on Sept 25, 2009 18:35:06 GMT -5
The interface on my MP3 player is probably as lousy as you can picture one being, but it doesn't stop me from listening to my music one bit. Some power sorting and playlist management would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker for me. The music is still very much playable..
I listen to a !@#%-ton of music too, but I've yet to fill my 8-gig. (I'm only about halfway there) I listen to music by album as well, for the most part. (I acknowledge that some albums only have one good song and I don't force myself to listen to the rest out of some misplaced sense of duty; that said there are a lot of good albums out there, still.) I've got something like, maybe 15-20 albums on my MP3 player along with 100-200 unsorted tunes. I don't bring my whole library with me (currently about 12-gigs on my laptop), because quite frankly, not all that music makes the cut. I'm a bit more selective these days..
But I generally agree with what others have said: it's not about how much music you love, it's about how much you love music.
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Post by Buster Cannon on Sept 25, 2009 18:56:26 GMT -5
I listen to a !@#%-ton of music too, but I've yet to fill my 8-gig. (I'm only about halfway there) ... I don't bring my whole library with me (currently about 12-gigs on my laptop), because quite frankly, not all that music makes the cut. I'm a bit more selective these days..
Agreed. My cheap 2-gig works just fine for me, and I rotate what's on it every couple of weeks or so. Honestly, as long as the sound quality is decent, my Mp3 player is doing it's job just fine. My total library rounds up to around 17 gigs, but I certainly don't need to carry all of it around with me. As far as features go, I can loop music (very nice), and change the equalizer settings, but that's about it. |
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Post by Blues on Sept 25, 2009 23:52:20 GMT -5
I have a Sansa...something, with just barely over 100 songs on it. Sure, it has a few other features too, but in the end I use it for what it is. Really, they should just make a new category of electronics for these mini multimedia devices; it might be less confusing and rage-inducing.  (I have to say, though: never, ever buy an MP3 player with a dot matrix display. They're cheap in every sense of the word.) |
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