Darfox8
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Post by Darfox8 on Sept 3, 2005 21:46:11 GMT -5
The reason it's hard for me to believe or atleast grasp my mind around it is because they never really give you hints. It might as well be an alternate universe. It's not like the X series where Light shows up. Or the Zero series where X shows up. Any mention of anything is just cameos just like it is in BN series. But I'm not exactly refusing the idea. I just want to know what you guys know.
Oh and car2oon. I posted your find in the Legends on PSP thread. Hope you don't mind.
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Post by pitch on Sept 4, 2005 9:58:25 GMT -5
Just to clear a few things up.
The Master is the LAST human being, therefore he comes far after Dr. Right. DASH is at least in the 500X's, and possibly even so far off as the 800X's. Dr. Right and Wily are long gone. It's so far down the line though, that there's pretty much no evidence to suggest that(you do find the X Buster and Z Saber, but yeah...). But they are on the same timeline.
Of course, the Zero series subtly hints at leading up to DASH. Some say the ending of Zero4 may be what leads to the flood, but we'll have to see what happens. It would make sense, even to the point that one more Zero game could be the tie in with DASH, but Zero's selling well so I suspsect perhaps the same thing that happened with the X series will happen here.
But yeah, up until a few years ago, no one believed DASH was tied in with the other games. But then Capcom released some official literary material saying it was thousands of years in the future of the X series. Since then people've been fitting the pieces together in any way they can. At this point though it seems like the flood's gunna come, wipe out a good percent of humanity and probably reploidity too, and then someone(maybe X) will create the system to preserve what's left, and well you know the rest.
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Post by PharaohManXe54 on Sept 4, 2005 10:48:52 GMT -5
Hmmm... I think a new series could be interesting. The way Zero turned out seemed fine, it leading up to Legends and all, but Battle Network.... just, man... Hmmmm... the more I think about it, the less possibilities the series has to fit in if in fact it is a new series. It's pretty much given that nothing really exciting could happen before classic Mega Man because he doesn't exist yet . IIRC, didn't that one doctor guy find Mega Man in the ruins of Dr. Light's lab and then converted him to Mega Man X which all reploids are modeled after? Well, whatever, nothing much could've happened between Mega Man being buried and him being found. Then supposedly X dies, while his cyber elf still remains, in Mega Man Zero and Zero picks up the slack. Then supposedly the world gets flooded and humans have to eke out a living and it is unknown if Zero survives. This is probably the only place a new series could fit in besides after Legends. My little theory is that the Master took X's cyber elf and created Trigger. The story of how that came to be could be a new series. But yeah, if it's an alternate time line, that would SUCK. SORRY FOR THE BLOCK PARAGRAPH.
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Post by pitch on Sept 4, 2005 10:59:12 GMT -5
Dr. Cain found MegaMan X. He didn't make MegaMan into X. In fact, it's really doubtful that MegaMan is X... there was something on Wikipedia that Rockman X showed me... let's see. hereX being Trigger is another widely believed idea, but I personally am starting to have my doubts. I dunno, I should say I'm starting to HOPE otherwise, because Capcom would jump all over that and turn it into another X series... <.<
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Darfox8
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Post by Darfox8 on Sept 4, 2005 13:26:10 GMT -5
Have you guys ever thought about Capcom just messed up on that thing they said. I don't like the idea too much because then they'll feel they have to twist the story to fit the timeline. And no. Zero four doesn't lead into the flood because I've seen the ending. But its still kinda conclusive so it still might be the last Zero.
I was confused. I thought Master was a god or sorts and he made the Carbons as Humans as we know them. So I thought that if the series were connected he would of created all the "carbons" in the classics series. Including Dr. Light and he created Megaman and-so-on-and-so-forth. But I just guess I didn't pay that much attension at the end of Legends 2. It doesn't matter because I wont be yelling out at Tron saying "No he has Alia from over a 100 years ago. You can't move in on her turf!!!!!". You know, They're still their own story.
But whatever, back on topic about the new series. If it is a new series it probably will be an Axle series. I think they should go for that FPS set up alot of people have spectulated. I know alot of you will starkly disagree. But I think an FPS with the X serie's dash and wall climb functions would make a great game.
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Post by pitch on Sept 4, 2005 13:42:53 GMT -5
Nah, it all fits that Legends is connected, but of course they're different stories...o.o
If you listen to what Sera says in the flashback scene, she says that the Master is the last human being.
Dr. Right, Wily, Cossak, Kalinka, and any other human in the older games is a HUMAN. Thousands of years later, when humanity is all but wiped out, the Master goes to Elysium. Somewhere around that time, the carbons are created. Then later down the line, the Master modifies the carbons so that they are about as close to humans as they can get. I don't really know what characteristic would possibly set them off from Humans really, but come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen a carbon bleed... o.o
Also, I know Zero 4 didn't end with the flood, but the Ragna-something or other thing made like a bunch of craters that may become the parts filled with water.
I kinda doubt Axl will get his own series, though I've heard the rumors about it. It seems kinda stupid. I'd say what's most likely is that it'll be like a new Battle Network or something, if it even is a new series.
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Post by TronBonne on Sept 5, 2005 9:28:01 GMT -5
When Joe was hurt I'm sure it said he was bleeding...but we didn't see any blood.
Do we have any idea how the Master created the Carbons? I mean he was the last human, but it's not like he had super powers or anything(or did he? *dun dun duuuuun*). Are Carbons like programs modified to be as close to humans as possible? Or do have flesh, souls, and bones like real humans?
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Post by pitch on Sept 5, 2005 11:02:35 GMT -5
Well, I'd think it'd be safe to say that technology had advanced to the point where making the betas more humanlike would be possible. It's kinda like asking how X's A.I. system works.. it just does.
And yeah, carbons are really just supposed to be considered humanlike. Flesh most likely, souls maybe maybe not(depends on your opinion of what a soul is), bones... that's an interesting one. You have people like Bon who're just a head, Joe has a mechanical arm(though that was more than likely attached later on), Barrel has that . . . thing on his face(that may be just there to cover an injury or something though), Teisel's eyes are perpetually red, I dunno I think there were a few others. What was my point? Oh yeah, maybe the inner workings of carbons aren't exactly the same as humans.
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Post by Dash on Sept 5, 2005 11:49:44 GMT -5
Wow, I feel like a n00b. I never really got into the other Mega Man games. So I'm...completely lost as to what everyone's talking about. Now I have to go buy all the other games and beat them so that I can look seemingly smart and nerdy like everyone else T_T
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Post by pitch on Sept 5, 2005 21:47:55 GMT -5
Basic Rundown:
Right & Wily create Blues, Rock, and Roll. Wily rebels, Rock becomes RockMAN and fights him, then he disappears and comes back a zillion times with outrageous excuses and cover stories. Eventually Right creates X with the idea of a full AI System in mind, while Wily creates Zero as a sort of second Forte or King. 100 years later, Zero's an Irregular Hunter, brought in by Sigma, Dr.Cain finds X, Sigma goes irregular and does the same thing as Wily. Then the Zero series happens, no one cares, and eventually we the System's established. 3000 years later the Master realizes his mistake, and dies, leaving Trigger to carry out his final command, Trigger and Sera fight to a standstill, Yuna puts them both in stasis(though she had to reset Trigger), guarding Sera from the Carbons, probably so Trigger can be recovered. Eventually Barrel finds Trigger as a baby on... either Nino or Kimotoma, I think, and the rest is DASH.
lol, thats about as much summarazing as I can do.
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Darfox8
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Post by Darfox8 on Sept 5, 2005 23:26:21 GMT -5
You don't really want to be smart and nerdy. Because then you'll have an opinion on stuff. And dat huit da brian.
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Post by Dash on Sept 5, 2005 23:32:48 GMT -5
So really, nothing matters before DASH. xDD
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Post by Dashe on Sept 6, 2005 20:52:40 GMT -5
If Rockman Rockman is in actuality Rockman Axl, I just don't see where and how it would fit into the timeline, unless it were to branch off from X's and start a whole new one, creating a whole new turn of events...such as, while the Zero series was going on, Axl went to a faraway galaxy and did such and such, giving Capcom a chance to make ANOTHER series telling about what happened after THAT, and so on and so forth. Basically, IMO, Rockman Axl = Meaning, if Rockman Rockman isn't Rockman Dash 3, I'll be kind of annoyed...er...I mean, REALLY MAD.
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Post by Darfox8 on Sept 7, 2005 12:16:50 GMT -5
Well Axl haters can breath easy... but PSP haters can continue to weeze. Click here for Rockman RockmanIt's a PSP remake of Megaman 1. And you can probably bet that they'll make more of the same. It's now in super chibi form and looks really cute. Also, it has a level editor. Which is awesome. And suposedly it's going to be even harder than the original. Maybe, just like Legends 3 they are checking if theres public intrest for a Megaman 9.
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Post by Mandinga on Sept 7, 2005 13:27:50 GMT -5
Thats just sad, capcom really needs some professional help in the psych ward.
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