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Post by SIMSteven on Oct 15, 2004 22:25:24 GMT -5
Capcom is a money grubber, which is why we have Battle Network and not Legends.
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Post by JMC47 on Oct 15, 2004 22:36:33 GMT -5
How true, we need companies that care about the minorities as much as the majorities, and as long as there is money, there probably won't be a legends 3 unless battle network stops selling, or X which is low on the quality scale from most reviews I've seen. I haven't ever seen battle network, not even on commercials. But as the theories go, if games sold by quality rather than popularity, legends would be the top selling Megaman games. Here is a theory, like the original, the only reason that they are able to make the games so fast is that they rehash the same models and scripts, but they must make new levels right. Legends also uses very similar models through the games which leads me to believe that capcom is made up of lazy modelers. If you couldn't find my theory, its because it got mixed in with a bunch of my complaints of mine.
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Post by bluerobotgirl on Oct 15, 2004 22:52:09 GMT -5
hmmmm.... I'll think about what SIM said, revise my theory, and see what you guys have to say about it then. (and prolly revise it even MORE aftet that.) In the meantime-- I would like to see all the series linked together somehow. Even if it's just alternate dimensions, I'd like to see some sort of explination. The only thing I know for sure is that the Zero series takes place after the X series. I'm assuming that Legends comes sometime after those two, since the energy crystals (or whatever they're called) seem to me to resemble early forms of refractors. The only thing I have trouble fitting in to ANY theory is what happened to the Cyber Elves. I guess the only reasonable explanation I can think of is that they all died or something. Hmmmm... SIM's theory about Zero being the master is actually pretty interesting... and the only problem I can see with it is that Zero wasn't human either.
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Post by JMC47 on Oct 15, 2004 23:01:37 GMT -5
The ruins were obviosly linked to the Zero series, just take a look at the Screenshot on MMLS. We know that they are from the same universe because of that. Zero is probably in a million mile deep scrap pile, along with X done for ever. I have feeling that the name is not a coincidence though. I think that there were myths about the mavericks and X by the time Master and his friends started creating the Master system, so they named their purifiers and Beaurocratic models to that myth. wow I used my brain for the first time in years.
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Post by SIMSteven on Oct 16, 2004 19:49:17 GMT -5
If you want to talk about linking, I'll give you some facts: X was built near the time of Light's death. X was put in a capsule to undergo behavioral treatment for 10 years before being released. That's why he's such a wuss, but still so powerful. (Light created X as a true combat model.) Zero was created by Wily, as seen in Zero's dreams in X4. But, he lost his memory somehow, and that's why he's a Maverick Hunter instead of a Maverick. The Zero series takes place several hundred years after the defeat of Sigma. It say so in the instruction booklet for Zero 1. I created a Theory Central at MLU. Look here: superdanny.proboards16.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Talk12&thread=1054230210&start=0Rockman Perfect Works, a book released by Capcom, says that the Legends series takes place "several thousand years after the X series." I don't have the book, so ask fab if he has it or look at GameFAQs. The only series not known to fit is the Battle Network series. It exists at 20XX, which is the same time as the Original series.
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Post by aarond on Oct 16, 2004 20:38:09 GMT -5
I'd guess, if I were trying to fit the BN series into canon, that it takes place before all the others, and that Lan is Dr. Light as a kid, and he built Mega Man based on his favorite program from his youth.
My theory on X series was: Zero, not X, was created by Dr. Light, and was then reprogrammed by Wily, which is why he started out crazy. X was built by Doc Wily to fool the people of the future (why he looks like Mega Man). Since every Reploid is based on X's program, this explains why they all inevitably go Maverick with a few exceptions, and even the most trustworthy of Reploids like Sigma become evil. I know that is a bit of a stretch, but I hate going with the simplest explanation.
Also: The Master was supposed to be the perfect human, which means, as we all would eventually realize, that he is George W. Bush.
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Post by JMC47 on Oct 16, 2004 21:06:21 GMT -5
Ummm. Battle network can't be before the original series for one reason. The first 2 or 3 games of the original series said 200X, so the battle network is just evil and never existed, except maybe in someones dream world.
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Post by bluerobotgirl on Oct 17, 2004 18:54:28 GMT -5
lol @ arrond -- dude, that's so crazy it's got to be true. Except that the master doesn't have Bush's accent and Bush doesn't have the same color hair... wait! That's changable! Okay, then I guess he is. My thoughts on the BN series was that when Netnavis became obsolete (sp?) Lan (fyi, Hikari means Light... poor translation, or mere coincidence?) didn't want to lose his brother, so he made him a robotic body and transferred his data to that. But somehow Protoman's got to fit in there, so I guess I don't know.
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Post by SIMSteven on Oct 17, 2004 22:17:05 GMT -5
Trust me, they take place about 10 years apart. They can't be related, with Wily being as old as he is in both games.
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Post by JMC47 on Oct 22, 2004 15:36:31 GMT -5
Well this theory is more me thinking outside the box then anything else. At the end of legends 2, I believe that Sera is still evil, you can't just join the other side after thousands of years of defending something. I think when the opportune moment comes she will kill Yuna and Megaman, plus the rest of the Carbons, then join the elders, create a new elysium, then seal the elder system, reinitialize Terra. Then thousands of years pass, the new last human goes to Terra with a new first class purifier unit. wash rinse and repeat.
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Post by SIMSteven on Oct 22, 2004 21:55:26 GMT -5
I can see where you're coming from, but all in all, I dunno. I'm not gonna fight the "thousand years in the future" part, but I could fight the Sera part.
Before you fight Sera, she mentions her behavioral limiters. That's why she's sticking with the System until she is defeated.
After you kill Sera, her behavioural limiter disappears, along with the System. Then, she suddenly understands why MegaMan and The Master did what they did. Therefore, it comes to the conclusion that MegaMan will once again become her friend, and she suddenly is able to change herself for the greater good.
As for the Carbons fighting with the Elders? I highly doubt that Carbons will join with the side of the reavers, especially since they're going to try and kill them.
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Post by JMC47 on Oct 22, 2004 22:21:15 GMT -5
I didn't explain it well. The carbons won't join the reaverbots. I think that Sera can be put into behavioral limiters by the elders. Then the elders controlling the reaverbots will take over Terra ect. But I think that this whole time that the same pattern has been repeating itself, since the DNA starts the same, it will remain the same.(basically same people everytime.) but then some die quicker and stuff, causing the world slightly different everytime.
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Post by megadude v 2.0 on Jan 21, 2005 21:39:40 GMT -5
I think that there is a tie between the series. Think about it. reploidscould be the base for burecratic and mother units and x-droids could be the base for purifiers and other combat units.
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Post by Dashe on Jan 22, 2005 14:12:20 GMT -5
Since I stink at platformers, the only Mega Man games I have played and finished are the MML series and the MMBN series, and I watched the Mega Man cartoon. I don't have any idea where Mega Man X fits into the Mega Man timeline except for the fact that in the cartoon there was an episode where X went back in time and met the original Mega Man (Rock).
So Mega Man takes place before MMX (naturally, considering the game's littered with little capsules with holograms of Dr. Light in it). Now for Battle Network. If you ignore the year the game is set in, one could figure that if Dr. Light and Lan AREN'T the same person, they could very well be related (and, since Dr. Light's name is Thomas and Lan's name isn't, the theory that they are one and the same is highly unlikely.) But Lan's last name is "Hikari," which means "Light" in Japanese. Dr. Light could therefore just be a nickname or alias taken from Lan's (or maybe his dad's, since Lan's dad is so crazy about science and building PETs) real last name. Dr. Light could very well be Lan's dad, since he and Dr. Wily are closer in age.
So neglecting the dates in the games, the PETs from battle network gradually evolved into the seven robots Dr. Light and Dr. Wily built in what I think is Electopia's SciLab. GutsMan, CutMan, BombMan, ElecMan, IceMan, and FireMan went crazy, Mega Man saved them all, you know what happened there. Then Mega Man X comes into play; apparently in that day and age there were zillions and zillions of robots that constantly waged war on each other. I'm guessing Mega Man Zero comes into play somewhere between the original and X series but since I don't even know what that's all about, I can't quite say where that fits in.
From what I've played out of the X series (X4-X7), I assume that over the span of the games countless drone Mavericks were created, deactivated, and reactivated over the games, since the enemies in all the X games look pretty similar to me, and when that Enigma cannon thing from X5 destroyed the asteroid or moon or whatever it was, many reaverbots ended up being just left in the dust to rot or something, and the remains of whatever had just been destroyed at the start of X6 became the setting for Legends after it began to recover from the shock, but that doesn't explain how it got to be so flooded. The Master and the inhabitants of Elysium are all robots, since by the later games of the X series, it seems like every character is a robot of some sort, and since there were no humans left, they made the carbons of the Legends series...and then all the carbons kept getting re-initialized and whatnot.
I'm not quite sure about most of this, especially the part concerning the X series' relationship, but I'm convinced there is some significance between Lan Hikari and Dr. Light because of the linguistic parallels.
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Post by ZFGokuSSJ1 on Jan 25, 2005 17:57:53 GMT -5
I think MegaMan is really a woman.... I think he had a sex change after MML1, that's why his voice is higher.
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