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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 12:36:35 GMT -5
Me, negative? Oh please, I just smell something really bad. Like this whole shit turning into something like the darker depth of the Sonic fandom. Sure, you guys can't control ~90.000 people, but they are your voice. They're what everyone notices from this whole thing. Hell, it was the reason I decided to stop checking the page out. But yeah, you're right... the Legends series sure got popular. I mean, now everyone thinks we're wanking our dicks towards Capcom, raging years over a single fucking game. That's clearly a step on the route toward the Sonic fandom quality.
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Post by Kyle on Apr 16, 2012 12:43:36 GMT -5
*Sigh*
I don't know whether I have the right to say this or not, but everybody needs to take a deep breath and calm down a little. In-fighting isn't going to help anybody, so let's regain a little composure, okay? ;D
And please, Truner. Don't play the comparison game. It's hurtful towards both fandoms.
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Post by karkatvantas on Apr 16, 2012 12:45:24 GMT -5
Not like either fandom is doing anything to redeem itself anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 12:48:57 GMT -5
Exactly. I guess it's truly the internet we're talking about. You guys are only forcing Capcom to make a game they don't want. Will that be good? Oh yes, we'll probably get a shitty, rushed, incomplete piece of mess. Something along the line of Sonic the Hedgehog Next-Gen. Sure, I enjoyed the game, others have enjoyed the game, but it's far from what it should've been. But yeah, go on, I mean, they can't make a game worse than Adventure to Save the Planet, right? After that, any kind of shit is good.
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Post by score on Apr 16, 2012 13:10:20 GMT -5
"Your ragemode posting has left me even less willing to contribute to your 100K strong movement. We're being realistic here. I highly doubt that even if you do manage to hit that mythical 100,000 person goal that Capcom is going to suddenly say, "Whoa, we should totally start making this game again!" How is stating facts ragemode? Did you read what I said? We're very aware that the game may never be revived. I came off frustrated because a couple of you fellas are spouting off uninformed speculation as fact and just being negative in general. It's fair that the video should've been clearer, I didn't create it myself but you do have to remember that we're just a bunch of fans behind this thing. Whether it's a video that can be taken the wrong way or some other kind of mistake, it's going to happen. We'll just always try and improve from experience. Rather than sit on this hole in the wall thread and complain, you'd do better to actually bring it up with the 100k admins rockvolnutt@ymail.com
Exactly. I guess it's truly the internet we're talking about. You guys are only forcing Capcom to make a game they don't want. Will that be good? Oh yes, we'll probably get a shitty, rushed, incomplete piece of mess. Something along the line of Sonic the Hedgehog Next-Gen. Sure, I enjoyed the game, others have enjoyed the game, but it's far from what it should've been. But yeah, go on, I mean, they can't make a game worse than Adventure to Save the Planet, right? After that, any kind of shit is good. After all the buzz and bad feedback Capcom has gotten since the cancellation, do you really think they'd release a crap game? I mean I know what you're saying, I've heard it said before, but the Prototype is complete, the game was already in production with the most of the models and voice work done. If they mess it up from there I'm sure Capcom can see how big of a mistake that would be. If Capcom decides to resume MML3, it won't be because they were "forced". We don't have anything to force them with. The only thing the movement is doing, at it's core, is networking Legends and MM fans, bringing more people into the Devroom, getting the Legends3/Devroom story out there, and letting Capcom know that there are enough of us for it to be worth their time to make this game. {Merged Double Post - EC}
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 13:25:03 GMT -5
We don't say facts. It's all speculation sold as speculation. Where do you see "this is fact" or the likes in any of our responses? You know what? I prefer this hole in the wall thread. It's a ground to every Legends fan, you know. I'd rather talk it over here. I mean, you're here to represent 100k, so why bother with e-mails? EDIT: please refrain from double posting. I know stuff like these are okay on a Facebook page, but it looks really bad on a forum. Not to mention that it's also against the rules.
They felt like it wasn't profiting enough to finish the game. Thus if they resume it, it'll be forced because you guys are constantly bitching. Yes, you guys. You represent the page of ~90.000 wankers bitching, spitting on Capcom and their games in every freaking way possible. Say what you want, do what you want, but your "army" ain't doing any help. Quite the opposite. But yes, you're right. Popularity is popularity even if it's badly influenced, right?
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Post by score on Apr 16, 2012 13:42:36 GMT -5
We don't say facts. It's all speculation sold as speculation. Where do you see "this is fact" or the likes in any of our responses? You know what? I prefer this hole in the wall thread. It's a ground to every Legends fan, you know. I'd rather talk it over here. I mean, you're here to represent 100k, so why bother with e-mails? Naw man, you plainly stated that 100k is doing NOTHING good for the series. You also said paid advertisment won't do a thing when I can see the numbers. Bottom line is that you obviously don't care enough about what you're talking about to try and make it count for something or make a difference. Oh and I didn't call Legends Station a hole in the wall, I mean it kind of is but I think it's great. I'm talking about this thread. Complaining just for the sake of complaining is a waste of time, especially when no one's around to hear it but maybe four people. I'ma drop it, see you around.
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Post by zetta on Apr 16, 2012 14:02:59 GMT -5
that one Matt dude likes everything posted, and both he and the Anime page spam the place up with pics Matt Deaman is a little challenged . He is annoying but in the grand scheme of things he's harmless. Trnuer has somewhat of a point, even if it was not expressed in an appropriate manner. While the campaign itself hasn't "officially" asked us to boycott other series, they have seriously hinted at it with pictures like "X Likes till' we pass Dead Rising/LostPlanet/Etc.". Also, many of it's followers have freely expressed their desires to boycott Capcom. How does the devroom having more member than X group implie a boycott ? You are reading into this way to much. The statement is just saying that by Capcom unity’s official counter we are bigger. No more, no less . That's only two cents. It's still far from the greedy $5 they're asking for lol. I mean I gladly donate whatever amount to... say, the AVGN movie, but not for something like a Facebook ad, that won't even help. 5 dollars seem greedy to you because you don’t like the movement in the first place. The five dollar thing is because that is the lowest amount that site will let you donate. We were originally were asking for 2 dollars . But yeah, you're right... the Legends series sure got popular. I mean, now everyone thinks we're wanking our dicks towards Capcom, raging years over a single fucking game. That's clearly a step on the route toward the Sonic fandom quality. Anybody who thinks that is quite uniformed. Capcom's shady practices have been questioned by gamers since the the beginning of this gen. The cancellation was the one event that pushed many of the neutral gamers to veiw capcom in a negative light . Furthermore, the games AREN'T more popular now. The first game sold 322,234 units in the us and the second game sold 155,580 units . I do see where you getting the whole "us vs them" vibe but historically this group has not been a boycott Capcom group. EDIT The numbers I wrote were old .According the NPD Mega Man Legends - 392,136 Mega Man Legends 2 - 179,660 The Misadventures of Tron Bonne - 22,801
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Post by Adrian2040 on Apr 16, 2012 14:12:25 GMT -5
How does the devroom having more member than X group implie a boycott ? You are reading into this way to much. The statement is just saying that by Capcom unity’s official counter we are bigger. No more, no less . I just find it weird that so many pictures with that data has been posted recently, while also considering that the same type of data has been posted as text throughout the history of the campaign. What I want to say is: Why is it important to surpass the amount of likes of the other groups? I thought the goal was to reach 100,000 likes, not to compete with the other groups on who has more or who reached 100,000 first or anything similar. It's just something that I find a bit meaningless. That's all.
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Post by zetta on Apr 16, 2012 14:18:31 GMT -5
They felt like it wasn't profiting enough to finish the game. Thus if they resume it, it'll be forced because you guys are constantly bitching. Yes, you guys. You represent the page of ~90.000 wankers bitching, spitting on Capcom and their games in every freaking way possible. Say what you want, do what you want, but your "army" ain't doing any help. Quite the opposite. But yes, you're right. Popularity is popularity even if it's badly influenced, right? I don't recall capcom officially stating " it wasn't profiting enough to finish the game".Do you have a source ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 14:24:39 GMT -5
Lack of response from fans = not profiting enough from a business view. It's that simple.
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Post by karkatvantas on Apr 16, 2012 14:44:42 GMT -5
The fact that the entire series failed to ship a million units total is really enough reason Capcom needs to decide not to invest in Legends 3. It's not pushing sales, so Capcom isn't going to spend money on it. I mean, honestly, if I was a shareholder and I saw the numbers, I'd likely rather Capcom invest in something more lucrative, too.
People often surround themselves with other like-minded people, so we're more likely to assume that the average person is a fan, because we've gotten to know more people who are fans. As much as I loved Legends 1 and 2, those numbers are frankly pitiful. The fandom is a very small niche of mostly nostalgia-d up Legends junkies. We're vocal, yes, but not profitable. It's a damn shame that Megaman in general is dying out, and yes, I was sad that they canceled Legends 3. But let's be realistic about this.
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Post by zetta on Apr 16, 2012 15:00:40 GMT -5
I disagree. Megaman legends 3 can be profitable with the right marketing . Capcom's marketing (or lack there of ) has always failed the legends series. I don't believe that this game was given a fair shake . EDIT "The fact that the entire series failed to ship a million units total is really enough reason Capcom needs to decide not to invest in Legends 3" This was not the norm back in the psone days .
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Post by Dashe on Apr 16, 2012 15:06:46 GMT -5
If you need any more proof that it was Capcom's marketing that failed first and foremost, think about this: Devroom Event #6 was a promotional campaign where they openly solicited ideas to market the Devroom instead of brainstorming on their own. They restricted themselves to only using the Internet to raise awareness, and in the end they didn't even pick a winner and implement it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 15:07:18 GMT -5
MML didn't needed any marketing background. It was a fucking Mega Man game. Is it a good game part of the old Mega Man series? It has nothing to do with them. Gone are the insane difficulty stages, and the action too. Mega Man Legends failed to bring a Mega Man experience. What it did? Made it possible for this forum to exist. Let's face it, even Starforce beat the Legends series by a full game entry.
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