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Post by Loken on Jun 1, 2012 3:03:24 GMT -5
That's just my opinion of the whole 7-uploid plotline. I don't like represent a consensus or anything. I just think the 7uploid battle has unifed everything satisfyingly. What's not good is to change the story massively without getting a heads up, or changing up someone elses character without that persons consent (and I'm not singling you out there, those are things everybody should abide by). This here is a game of compromises and you gotta consider the other people who are participating. I thought we had a helpful guide of RP Etiquette around here somewhere but I can't find it now.
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Post by Bowen Aero on Jun 1, 2012 3:14:59 GMT -5
I make one mistake, now everybody hates me. I try and fix it all, everyone hates me even more. I should just stop posting otherwise I'll get banned.
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Post by Kyle on Jun 1, 2012 5:50:25 GMT -5
*Ahem*Calm down, dear. Nobody is actively trying to hate you. Each person has at least made a couple of mistakes in that RP, hell, I've made a good few of them myself. Here's a list of the things you've done. Try scanning over it, and see if anything looks a little... out-of-bounds for this kind of RP. - Started posting in the RP. This was fine, although being able to make 7-Uploids off the bat like that was a little edgy. Maybe if you gradually gained that power it might have been better.
- You then began a conflict between the CokeBots and 7-Uploids. An interesting plot-choice, but not executed too well. Also, the CokeBots are Dashe's creation. Did you have her permission to start killing one, let alone the majority of them?
- You killed a lot of the CokeBots. I know they're supposed to be pathetic and all, but you could've given 'em a fair chance.
- Scratching the side of Dashe's car? You son of a....!
- Setting the MML2 building on fire was really pushing it, man. Dashe didn't even request that you change it. She blatantly ignored it.
- Apparently, you had powers of teleportation too. Maybe you had a decent explanation for it, but the rest of us have to huff it around on foot. (For the most part)
- The creation of Tamashi was just... weird. Making an embryo from your blood and some hair (Originally Dashe's and without her consent. Respect other people's DNA, damnit!) you found in a trashcan? Yeaaaaah...
- Once people started to call out some of this bull, you immediately tried to 'take it back'. Sorry, but in my opinion, using a magic undo button is one of the biggest uses of godmodding I've ever seen.
So. As you can see, Dashe got the most abuse from your 'creative-posting'. Try to understand why she'd be upset.
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Post by Bowen Aero on Jun 1, 2012 6:13:36 GMT -5
Okay, this I can explain. I had a fully-mapped plan, but it somehow derailed at some point.
From the beginning, the 7-Uploids were there as data storage for Emotional AI. Their decision to destroy was from faulty AI, and was supposed to be tackled imediately. To attract attention, I pushed the killing a bit further. Still no attention, then came the fire that never happened. The car scratching? Bit of a side joke. No teleportation, but a smokescreen. He ran after using the spark powder on his hands. Tamashi was actually the real reason I started this mess. I got tired of waiting to use the idea of her. Originally, her mother was a strong-willed woman named Seng Jinn. I never liked the character of Seng, so I replaced it with Dashe to make up for the loss off Seng's genes. And as for the recall, I was always taught that if somebody doesn't like something, take it away.
But whatever. My only concern now is keeping Tamashi alive and clearing Bowen's name.
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Post by Dashe on Jun 1, 2012 6:55:04 GMT -5
I didn't even have a car until you godmodded me one, Bowen. Your character's name will NEVER be cleared. Deal with it. It's a character. Move on.
If Roleplaying is your life, you need to A) get a better life, and B) at least learn to roleplay properly, because what you just described is not roleplaying. It's being a Game Master (GM).
Normal, non-GM roleplayers are not supposed to plot out giant chunks of story and force them on other people. Especially not other people who can and WILL ban you in the game. That's why I kept ignoring you until you set my damn building on fire. Any member deserves the right to opt out of any plot. If your plot does not catch on, don't push it on others so they're forced to address it. In the same vein, if it does, don't cut it short before everyone has a chance to finish it!
The things we responded positively to may not have been good for you, but they were great for the plot. Conversely, everything we responded negatively to adversely affected the plot (or happened to be blatant godmodding).
You shouldn't get yourself married to a plotline and force your hand on everyone so the game follows what you think should happen. That's not collaborating. That's not roleplaying. Roleplaying is collaborating is roleplaying is collaborating is roleplaying. If you're not collaborating and willing to take a shot at compromising that 'perfect' scenario you love so much, then you're not doing it right.
Frankly, I think this RP is too advanced for you, since everything I say to you seems to go in one ear and out the other. How many times do I have to yell "no godmodding" at you until you understand what godmodding is?! The best advice I can give you is to make Tamashi as insignificant and ordinary as you possibly can (or hand her off to someone else if you loooove her so much) and exclusively RP in Crossroads, because there's no way you can muck that up.
The fact that Tamashi had a backstory you could just plug into any RP makes me question her existence in MMLS even farther. That is a phenomenon called 'shoehorning.' Altering a story to accommodate a character you want to throw into the plot. It rarely ever works even in professionally made movies.
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Post by Bowen Aero on Jun 1, 2012 7:07:31 GMT -5
See? What I tell ya, Loken? Everybody hates me. Whatever. I'm keeping Tamashi alive. The sooner she gets emotions, the sooner I'm outta here. After that, you won't have to worry about me anymore.
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Post by Kyle on Jun 1, 2012 7:20:48 GMT -5
See? What I tell ya, Loken? Everybody hates me. If everybody hates you, then why would you mention it to Loken? I'm pretty sure he falls under the umbrella of "everybody" as well. Besides. I wouldn't call Dashe's most recent post a hateful one. Sure, it's got an annoyed tone to it, but hate implies bias. From what I can see, that post is pretty fair.
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Post by Dashe on Jun 1, 2012 7:32:04 GMT -5
Yeah. Though mistaking it for an ad-hominem attack without acknowledging any of the meat of it kind of proves my point that he's probably not ready to handle an RP like MMLS City.
Wow, I can't believe I just said "not ready to handle MMLS City." I'd always thought MMLS City was pretty basic and straightforward.
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Post by Bowen Aero on Jun 1, 2012 10:00:24 GMT -5
If you people hate my ideas so much, why don't we just forget any of this ever happened?! Nobody would miss this plot! Nobody even likes it! Everbody would be happier if it weren't here at all!!
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Post by Dashe on Jun 1, 2012 10:33:43 GMT -5
Absolutely not. We're in too deep now, and copping out wouldn't do the story as a whole any favors. Every other person in this RP has the skill to actually salvage that plot of yours, so I'd really just back off and stop being a baby about it. You know, stop whining and put on your big girl panties. All this melodrama is making you look immature and messed up, and giving me a headache.
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Post by Bowen Aero on Jun 1, 2012 11:30:16 GMT -5
Okay, sorry. IRL stuff is seriously clouding my thoughts.
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Post by Music_Swashbuckler on Jun 1, 2012 11:36:33 GMT -5
Putting all this drama aside, we should get back on topic right? As the others have mentioned before, we are far into this plot to end it abruptly. Shall I wait for response on #827 or finish the battle on my own?
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Post by Bowen Aero on Jun 1, 2012 12:21:56 GMT -5
Okay, 827 is dead. All that remain are 325 and 129. I got over the IRL problems, so I should be in a better mood now. Dadgomn, needles are frightening...
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Post by Dashe on Jun 1, 2012 12:38:19 GMT -5
If you have real life problems, for god's sake don't take them out on us. We may be internet people but we're still people.
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Post by Loken on Jun 1, 2012 12:42:08 GMT -5
I hope all the newbies didn't die, Music! Poor, poor miserable sods.
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