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Post by Avegodro on Dec 18, 2010 20:26:04 GMT -5
Okay I have a theory here and I'd love to have some feedback here. !!!WARNING MEGA MAN ZXA SPOILER AHEAD!!! Just to let everyone know. At the end of ZXA, Master Thomas reveals he wishes to "reset the world". I believe this caused him to create the Elder system witch would purge the entire earth of life. This sparked a war that caused the flooding of the world and almost destroys the humans and reploids. The survivors band together and create the ruins, reaverbots, elysium, eden satellites and carbons. A point to note is that all the ruins are on islands above the water. The ones in the ocean are way above the water level. So I believe the entire Master system was constructed post flooding. i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af302/Avegodro/MML2%20map/RDsetteisketchartbookunderwater.jpgBut here is where I'm kinda stumped: 1. Are carbons pure organics or do they have machine bodies like the humans from the zx series? ( The 3rd event artwork at the MML3 devroom seems to indicate they have machine bodies) 2. When the pillar comes down onto an island what happens to the people? With 10000 workers coming out and being able to clear kattleox in five minutes I wonder. To they purge them and take the bodies with them, dispose of them another way I have no idea. Except that if the carbons have mechanical bodies would it be possible the workers turn them into cyber elves? ( Crazy insane thought) So any feedback would be appreciated.
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Post by Raijin on Dec 18, 2010 21:15:22 GMT -5
You said you wanted to gather the facts, but you're still dwelling mostly in speculation territory.
The first sentence is established, but there are still a lot of alternate ways the rest could have turned out. I think assuming there is a direct link between ZXA and Legends is a mistake. Remember that at the time of X5, it was reasonable to assume there would be a direct link between that and Legends what with X saying he wanted to build Elysium, but then they went and made two other series in between the X and Legends timeline instead. We know how Capcom works now, there's no reason to doubt they'll make a dozen other new Megamans in between ZXA and Legends, all with mysterious cataclysms erasing all history of the previous series, all with hints at the end of the games making you think the next game will explain the link to Legends. I'm pretty sure they'll fill in the gap between the Original and X series before they fill in the gap prior to Legends, which is to say never.
We never really see what's under the ocean though (canonicity of early concept art is debatable given how much of it changed before the final release), so it's hard to say Master ruins aren't down there too. The Master System could have been around before the water level got that high. I also don't like to discount the possibility that the "flooding" wasn't some sudden cataclysmic event, but rather a gradual change over the course of hundreds and thousands of years, much like how Earth's current water levels are slowly rising. There's enough time unaccounted for that it could be anything.
If the Carbons all had mechanical bodies and had never seen any organics to compare themselves to, then they certainly wouldn't notice the difference. We know the Carbons age, so if they're not organic, they at least approximate organic functions to the point we probably wouldn't notice the difference anyway. I hate to fuel the theories that say ZXA is the last step before Legends timeline kicks in, but the same sort of thing was established there, with the line between man and machine blurring to the point of indistinguishable. That's the kind of bodies I believe the Carbons have. It's one of those things that's not really worth thinking too hard about.
It's another area widely open to interpretation. I like to imagine a bloody massacre because that's hardcore, though others suggest a more clean, efficient method more suitable of the clean, efficient System. Gas, radiation, nanotech-assassins, etc. Either way, the bodies are probably recycled, broken down into base materials to be used in forming the new population.
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Post by Loken on Dec 19, 2010 2:22:18 GMT -5
Really it's all guessing, I'm rusty on my MML2, but I no there are not really any hints to go by. Really this kind of things are why I could never let go of the thought of MML3. I need closure in MML3, or a MML4.
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Post by Avegodro on Dec 30, 2010 18:40:04 GMT -5
True Raijin but that was for the three sites to get together and put some facts up on the Devroom not me gather the facts and put them there. This thread is for theories and speculations. For that concept artwork I have no idea why i even put that in there. As for capcom fitting more series in between ZXA and MATB I doubt it. Since for over 3000 years its the same thing, purge, repopulate, repeat. I think the theory about the carbons being turned into cyber elves when purged is more plausiable than nanotech bugs, gas or radiation. In ZX the humans and reploids were turned into cyber elves for fuel. And when the master died he turned into a multi-colored ball of light. (Though this might not have happened because it was inside Triggers mind at that point). Uncle Diggs ghost can be considered his cyber elf form. Check out what some others have to say on these subjects: www.themmnetwork.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1130-crazy-ride-from-zxa-to-matb/
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Post by bdmdrfckr on Jan 10, 2011 13:25:29 GMT -5
Well I assume that one can only guess what the pillars do, though, when I first beat MML, i think there was only one pillar. It seemed to me that whatever juno had activated was only going to affect katalox. Being that there were so many pillars in space (at the end of the game), I can only assume that one wouldn't be enough to destroy an entire planet. Thus, 1 Pilar = 1 Destroyed Katolox. My guess is that inside each pilar, there is a purifier unit that would destroy whatever needed destroying. Or it could be your Idea, with a whole bunch of mini robots purging them in a far quicker way. Though, a far more logical, and less fun way of thinking of it would be a bomb. But thats too boring, and I doubt that Capcom would think of something so dull.
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