Post by magma976 on Jun 9, 2009 2:31:41 GMT -5
Hello everyone. I'm Magma and I've been a fan of the MegaMan Legends series ever since it came out way back when.
This is my first post, and I'm gonna use it to express by current annoyance. I'm trying to get 100% completion on Legends 2, which means getting 99 Extra Packs, Medicine Packs, and completely upgrading every weapon, as well as doing everything optional, etc., etc.
However, in order to do this, you must farm TONS of zenny. This is very annoying, considering the best way to get zenny is a monotone, repetitive activity in the Pokte Caverns where you just defeat the King Miroc Reaverbot over and over again. Sure, you get around 30,000 zenny a minute, but when compared to the astronomical sum you'll need, that's still an arduous grind.
To prove my point, here is a breakdown of all the zenny you need to buy everything in the game...
Note that this list assumes several things: you become Light MegaMan, thus getting a 20% discount at stores, as soon as you defeat Teisel in Kimotama City, and you get the 10% Development Room discount from Roll as soon as possible.
Also, note that things are listed in a general order of when you buy them in the game...The Vacuum Arm, Drill Arm, and Buster Cannon won't have the 10% discount, as I personally upgrade those weapons before that discount is available.
Without further ado, here is the list...
Rollerboard: 3,000
Normal Armor: 3,500
All Bionic Parts: 96,000
Energy Canteen: 600
Power Raiser: 1,600
Turbo Charger: 800
Range Booster: 1,200
Flutter repairs: 2,000 (can vary)
Bottle Rocket: 1,000
Long Barrel: 1,000
Buster Unit: 4,000
Blaster Unit: 3,000
Autofire Unit: 2,500
Refrigerator: 5,000
Newspaper subscription: 3,000
Toilet Cleaner: 1,500
Getting story info from the Calinca priest: 100
TV for the Flutter: 25,000
Vacuum Arm: 126,000
Pokte Village repairs: 3,000 (varies)
Comic Book: 1,200
Vase: 30,000
Houseplant: 5,000
Stuffed Doll: 5,000
Model Ship: 100,000
Medicine Bottle: 6,400
Upgrade Pack: 4,000
Booster Pack: 4,000
Padded Armor: 15,000
Drill Arm: 10,500
Aqua Chip: 10,000
Padded Armor Omega: 25,000
Resistor Chip: 200,000
Light Barrier: 50,000
Hyper Cartridge: 2,000
Buster Cannon: 930,000
Cushion: 20,000
===FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, ALL SPECIAL WEAPON UPGRADES WILL HAVE THE 10% DISCOUNT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT===
Joint Plug: 80,000
Flame Barrier: 150,000
Superball: 480
Link Armor: 40,000
Padded Helmet: 10,000
Power Raiser Alpha: 16,000
Turbo Charger Alpha: 6,000
Rapid Fire Alpha: 10,000
Wallpaper: 36,000
Painting: 48,000
Game Cartridge: 32,000
Reaverbot Eye: 100,000
Taser: 10,000
Becoming Light MegaMan: 2,000,000 or more (varies)
===FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, THE 20% DISCOUNT AT SHOPS FOR BEING LIGHT MEGAMAN IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT===
Hyper Shell: 855,000
Link Armor Omega: 48,000
Power Blaster Omega: 20,000
Buster Unit Omega: 8,000
Blaster Unit Omega: 8,000
Power Raiser Omega: 640,000
Range Booster Omega: 480,000
Rapid Fire Omega: 400,000
Upgrade Pack Omega: 28,000
Kevlar Armor: 64,000
Kevlar Armor Omega: 80,000
All Extra Packs: 1,424, 400
All Medicine Packs: 1,446,400
Blade Arm: 1,809,000
Ground Crawler: 62,550
Homing Missile: 2,691,000
Hunter Seeker: 652,500
Machine Gun Arm: 239,400
Reflector Arm: 78,300
Shield Arm: 40,500
Spread Buster: 1,034,100
Crusher: 4,860,000
Shining Laser - without final Energy upgrade: 7,425,000
Shining Laser final Energy upgrade: 8,999,999
Filling your wallet for a "perfect game": 9,000,000
Total = 46,634,629
Now, to be fair, let's subtract the amount of zenny you get throughout the game from chests, cracks in the wall, etc.:
FLUTTER
1,000: MegaMan's Room, green dresser
5,000: Barrel's Room, under bed
1,000: Barrel's Room, in Flutter model
2,000: Engine Room, in a panel
Total = 9,000 zenny
CALINCA ISLAND
200: Yosyonke, kicking a can into a garbage can
1,000: Yosyonke, kick a can into a garbage can
1,000: Yosyonke, inside a garbage can
500: Abandoned Mine, treasure chest
300: Abandoned Mine, treasure chest
100: Abandoned Mine, treasure chest
1,000: Yosyonke, kick a can into a garbage can
5,000: Yosyonke, kick a can into a garbage can
300,000: Junk Shop, sell the Reaverbot Eye to the owner
8,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
30,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
10,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
50,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
Total = 406,100
SULPHUR-BOTTOM
500: Guest Deck, plant in Ancients' room
2,000: Bluecher's Room, plant
1,800: Flying Ship Dock, in crate
1,000: Flying Ship Dock, in crate
Total = 5,300 zenny
MANDA ISLAND
3,000: Pokte Caverns, in a wall crack
6,500: Pokte Caverns, in a wall crack
2,800: Pokte Caverns, in a chest
4,000: Pokte Caverns, in a chest
2,500: Pokte Caverns, in a chest
30,000: Sell Refractor B from the Pokte Caverns
800: General Store, in trunk
2,000: General Store, in a barrel
2,000: Interior, in chest
1,200: Interior, in drawers
1,800: Interior, in cabinets
12,500: Sell the Mug from the Pokte Quiz
2,500: Sell the Pokte Tea from the Pokte Quiz
10,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
5,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
8,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
2,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
2,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
4,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
6,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
TOTAL = 108,600
NINO ISLAND
3,000: Ruminoa City, in trash can
1,500: General Store, in dresser
6,000: Guild Ruins, in a chest
12,000: Guild Ruins, in a chest
50,000: Selling Refractor A from the Kito Caverns
2,500: Nino Ruins, in a chest
12,500: Nino Ruins, in a chest
5,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
20,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
4,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
20,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
Total = 136,500
CALBANIA ISLAND
2,000: Kito Village, in a trash can
3,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
3,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
8,000: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
5,000: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
3,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
8,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
5,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
12,000: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
7,500: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
TOTAL = 56,500
SAUL KADA ISLAND
25,000: Kimotama Caverns, in a crack in the wall
18,000: Kimotama Caverns, in a crack in the wall
15,000: Kimotama Caverns, in a chest
3,000: Kimotama City, in a pot
1,000: Kimotama City, in a pot
2,000: Interior, under a table
1,000: Interior, in a bookshelf
100,000: Sell the Refractor S from the Kimotama Caverns
50,000: Ruin Gate, sell the Reaverbot Claw as Dark MegaMan
15,000: Saul Kada Ruins, in a chest
30,000: Saul Kada Ruins, in a chest
24,000: Saul Kada Ruins, in a chest
Total = 284,000
ELYSIUM
40,000: Defense Area, in a chest
36,000: Defense Area, in a chest
10,000: Defense Area, in a chest
60,000: Side Area, in a chest
100,000: Mother Zone, in a chest
150,000: Mother Zone, in a chest
Total = 396,000
Grand Total of Zenny Treasure = 1,402,000
Oh wow. Yeah. That's a lot. Not.
So let's combine the two numbers we've come up with...
Amount of zenny needed for a "perfect" game = 46,634,629
Amount of zenny gotten as treasure = 1,402,000
That means the grand total of zenny you need to either farm from Reaverbots, kick cans in Yosyonke for, or win Saul Kada races amounts to a whopping 45,232,629. Oh my.
So, let's do the math here for a moment. This means that even if you were to use the fastest method of getting zenny in the game (the King Miroc), let's say you're able to kill the thing and collect all it's zenny roughly 3 times in a minute. That means 30,000 zenny per minute, and about 1,800,000 zenny per hour. Which means in order to farm enough zenny, it will take you ABOUT 26 hours to get enough zenny. TWENTY-SIX HOURS STRAIGHT OF KILLING A KING MIROC.
Really, that's my only complaint with this game. I LOVE it otherwise. But seriously, Capcom...Really? It makes me wish the PSP version had been ported...
There you have it. The straight, hardcore facts! Thanks for reading.
This is my first post, and I'm gonna use it to express by current annoyance. I'm trying to get 100% completion on Legends 2, which means getting 99 Extra Packs, Medicine Packs, and completely upgrading every weapon, as well as doing everything optional, etc., etc.
However, in order to do this, you must farm TONS of zenny. This is very annoying, considering the best way to get zenny is a monotone, repetitive activity in the Pokte Caverns where you just defeat the King Miroc Reaverbot over and over again. Sure, you get around 30,000 zenny a minute, but when compared to the astronomical sum you'll need, that's still an arduous grind.
To prove my point, here is a breakdown of all the zenny you need to buy everything in the game...
Note that this list assumes several things: you become Light MegaMan, thus getting a 20% discount at stores, as soon as you defeat Teisel in Kimotama City, and you get the 10% Development Room discount from Roll as soon as possible.
Also, note that things are listed in a general order of when you buy them in the game...The Vacuum Arm, Drill Arm, and Buster Cannon won't have the 10% discount, as I personally upgrade those weapons before that discount is available.
Without further ado, here is the list...
Rollerboard: 3,000
Normal Armor: 3,500
All Bionic Parts: 96,000
Energy Canteen: 600
Power Raiser: 1,600
Turbo Charger: 800
Range Booster: 1,200
Flutter repairs: 2,000 (can vary)
Bottle Rocket: 1,000
Long Barrel: 1,000
Buster Unit: 4,000
Blaster Unit: 3,000
Autofire Unit: 2,500
Refrigerator: 5,000
Newspaper subscription: 3,000
Toilet Cleaner: 1,500
Getting story info from the Calinca priest: 100
TV for the Flutter: 25,000
Vacuum Arm: 126,000
Pokte Village repairs: 3,000 (varies)
Comic Book: 1,200
Vase: 30,000
Houseplant: 5,000
Stuffed Doll: 5,000
Model Ship: 100,000
Medicine Bottle: 6,400
Upgrade Pack: 4,000
Booster Pack: 4,000
Padded Armor: 15,000
Drill Arm: 10,500
Aqua Chip: 10,000
Padded Armor Omega: 25,000
Resistor Chip: 200,000
Light Barrier: 50,000
Hyper Cartridge: 2,000
Buster Cannon: 930,000
Cushion: 20,000
===FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, ALL SPECIAL WEAPON UPGRADES WILL HAVE THE 10% DISCOUNT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT===
Joint Plug: 80,000
Flame Barrier: 150,000
Superball: 480
Link Armor: 40,000
Padded Helmet: 10,000
Power Raiser Alpha: 16,000
Turbo Charger Alpha: 6,000
Rapid Fire Alpha: 10,000
Wallpaper: 36,000
Painting: 48,000
Game Cartridge: 32,000
Reaverbot Eye: 100,000
Taser: 10,000
Becoming Light MegaMan: 2,000,000 or more (varies)
===FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, THE 20% DISCOUNT AT SHOPS FOR BEING LIGHT MEGAMAN IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT===
Hyper Shell: 855,000
Link Armor Omega: 48,000
Power Blaster Omega: 20,000
Buster Unit Omega: 8,000
Blaster Unit Omega: 8,000
Power Raiser Omega: 640,000
Range Booster Omega: 480,000
Rapid Fire Omega: 400,000
Upgrade Pack Omega: 28,000
Kevlar Armor: 64,000
Kevlar Armor Omega: 80,000
All Extra Packs: 1,424, 400
All Medicine Packs: 1,446,400
Blade Arm: 1,809,000
Ground Crawler: 62,550
Homing Missile: 2,691,000
Hunter Seeker: 652,500
Machine Gun Arm: 239,400
Reflector Arm: 78,300
Shield Arm: 40,500
Spread Buster: 1,034,100
Crusher: 4,860,000
Shining Laser - without final Energy upgrade: 7,425,000
Shining Laser final Energy upgrade: 8,999,999
Filling your wallet for a "perfect game": 9,000,000
Total = 46,634,629
Now, to be fair, let's subtract the amount of zenny you get throughout the game from chests, cracks in the wall, etc.:
FLUTTER
1,000: MegaMan's Room, green dresser
5,000: Barrel's Room, under bed
1,000: Barrel's Room, in Flutter model
2,000: Engine Room, in a panel
Total = 9,000 zenny
CALINCA ISLAND
200: Yosyonke, kicking a can into a garbage can
1,000: Yosyonke, kick a can into a garbage can
1,000: Yosyonke, inside a garbage can
500: Abandoned Mine, treasure chest
300: Abandoned Mine, treasure chest
100: Abandoned Mine, treasure chest
1,000: Yosyonke, kick a can into a garbage can
5,000: Yosyonke, kick a can into a garbage can
300,000: Junk Shop, sell the Reaverbot Eye to the owner
8,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
30,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
10,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
50,000: Calinca Ruins, in a chest
Total = 406,100
SULPHUR-BOTTOM
500: Guest Deck, plant in Ancients' room
2,000: Bluecher's Room, plant
1,800: Flying Ship Dock, in crate
1,000: Flying Ship Dock, in crate
Total = 5,300 zenny
MANDA ISLAND
3,000: Pokte Caverns, in a wall crack
6,500: Pokte Caverns, in a wall crack
2,800: Pokte Caverns, in a chest
4,000: Pokte Caverns, in a chest
2,500: Pokte Caverns, in a chest
30,000: Sell Refractor B from the Pokte Caverns
800: General Store, in trunk
2,000: General Store, in a barrel
2,000: Interior, in chest
1,200: Interior, in drawers
1,800: Interior, in cabinets
12,500: Sell the Mug from the Pokte Quiz
2,500: Sell the Pokte Tea from the Pokte Quiz
10,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
5,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
8,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
2,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
2,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
4,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
6,000: Manda Ruins, in a chest
TOTAL = 108,600
NINO ISLAND
3,000: Ruminoa City, in trash can
1,500: General Store, in dresser
6,000: Guild Ruins, in a chest
12,000: Guild Ruins, in a chest
50,000: Selling Refractor A from the Kito Caverns
2,500: Nino Ruins, in a chest
12,500: Nino Ruins, in a chest
5,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
20,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
4,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
20,000: Nino Ruins, in a chest
Total = 136,500
CALBANIA ISLAND
2,000: Kito Village, in a trash can
3,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
3,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
8,000: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
5,000: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
3,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
8,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
5,000: Kito Caverns, in a chest
12,000: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
7,500: Kito Caverns, in a crack in the wall
TOTAL = 56,500
SAUL KADA ISLAND
25,000: Kimotama Caverns, in a crack in the wall
18,000: Kimotama Caverns, in a crack in the wall
15,000: Kimotama Caverns, in a chest
3,000: Kimotama City, in a pot
1,000: Kimotama City, in a pot
2,000: Interior, under a table
1,000: Interior, in a bookshelf
100,000: Sell the Refractor S from the Kimotama Caverns
50,000: Ruin Gate, sell the Reaverbot Claw as Dark MegaMan
15,000: Saul Kada Ruins, in a chest
30,000: Saul Kada Ruins, in a chest
24,000: Saul Kada Ruins, in a chest
Total = 284,000
ELYSIUM
40,000: Defense Area, in a chest
36,000: Defense Area, in a chest
10,000: Defense Area, in a chest
60,000: Side Area, in a chest
100,000: Mother Zone, in a chest
150,000: Mother Zone, in a chest
Total = 396,000
Grand Total of Zenny Treasure = 1,402,000
Oh wow. Yeah. That's a lot. Not.
So let's combine the two numbers we've come up with...
Amount of zenny needed for a "perfect" game = 46,634,629
Amount of zenny gotten as treasure = 1,402,000
That means the grand total of zenny you need to either farm from Reaverbots, kick cans in Yosyonke for, or win Saul Kada races amounts to a whopping 45,232,629. Oh my.
So, let's do the math here for a moment. This means that even if you were to use the fastest method of getting zenny in the game (the King Miroc), let's say you're able to kill the thing and collect all it's zenny roughly 3 times in a minute. That means 30,000 zenny per minute, and about 1,800,000 zenny per hour. Which means in order to farm enough zenny, it will take you ABOUT 26 hours to get enough zenny. TWENTY-SIX HOURS STRAIGHT OF KILLING A KING MIROC.
Really, that's my only complaint with this game. I LOVE it otherwise. But seriously, Capcom...Really? It makes me wish the PSP version had been ported...
There you have it. The straight, hardcore facts! Thanks for reading.
